[Alioth-staff-replacement] Alioth: Concerns about git URLs and groups/teams

Ondřej Surý ondrej at sury.org
Thu Sep 21 13:47:44 UTC 2017


FWIW gitlab now supports groups, subgroups and projects + granular
permissions per those.

Ondřej

On Thu 21 Sep 2017, 11:10 Alexander Wirt <formorer at debian.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Guillem Jover wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > First off, and just to be clear, I think decomissioning Alioth is a
> > good thing given its current state! Thanks for that.
> >
> > One concern is whether we'll be needing to mass switch yet again git
> > repo URLs for the nth time? The nice thing about the current setup is
> > that it's decoupled from Alioth, at least URL-wise. I think it would
> > be nice to preserve that.
> >
> > And the other related concern is that the current candidate (gitlab)
> > seems to suffer from the same flat-namespace disease as github, where
> > all users and orgs/groups/teams are conflated, and the site is
> > user-centric instead of project or team-centered. For something like
> > gitlab.com or github.com that's from ok to passable (even if sometimes
> > very annoying), but for something like Debian, where our user
> > registration is independent of our "forge" this is a problem with
> > collisions waiting to happen, or where we cannot consider using
> > groups/teams freely. :( When it seems like most of our packages are
> > maintained as part of some team even if the team is composed of
> > very few members, because that's a nice way to group related packages.
> >
> > I'd like to note that while gitlab, as well as gitea get this wrong,
> > pagure for example seems to have gotten this right!
> We do plan to provide some solution for the namespace thing with providing
> an
> own interface for creating group in defined namespaces.
>
> Alex
>
> >
>
> --
Ondřej Surý <ondrej at sury.org>
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