[Alioth-staff-replacement] Mailman (lists.alioth) data migration from old infra

[Toni Mueller]

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:06:52PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> That's the thing, I don't believe the web interface is of any use,
> especially if you use MLMMJ, which has everything through mail commands.

Mailman also has a lot, or all of it, via email (not sure about
moderation, though).

> Indeed, Mailman is horrible to configure,

I agree for Mailman 2, but have no experience with Mailman 3.

> used for example for all Gentoo and SuSE lists. I would happily help
> configure it with Postfix if you need (though it's *really* strait forward).

It's also quite straightforward to write software to meddle with the
settings of mlmmj based lists, since the configs are mostly (all?) plain
text files.

> for "a few years", without more details. In my book, "a few years" means
> more than 2. Mailman 2 is written in Python 2. This alone is a path you
> want to avoid, since Python 2 will be EOL in 2020 (that's in 2 years
> from now). So at least, I would strongly advise for using at least
> Mailman 3 (but preferably MLMMJ). Also, what is going to happen after
> that period? Are you asking everyone to migrate to something else?

Good point, haven't thought about that.

> I really would have preferred if the DSA allowed someone to administer
> the lists on a DSA machine, and more sustainable plan.

+1


Cheers,
--Toni++