[Debian-olpc-devel] squeak/etoys (Re: Fwd: sugar)

[Bert Freudenberg]

On 02.04.2008, at 13:24, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi José,
>
> On Wednesday 02 April 2008 09:58, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
>> About the etoys packaging:
>> - My intention is packaging e-toys as a squeak-image, and doing the  
>> same
>> with other squeak images that are around. So, etoys should provide
>> squeak-image, squeak-image-3.10 should provide squeak-image ,
>> squeakland-image should provide squeak-image, educarex-image should
>> provide squeak-image, and so on.
>> - No one of these images can go to Debian yet, as the relicencing
>> process of the image has not finished,
>> and thus, they are not DFSG
>> compatible yet. I'm afraid that won't happen before 8 or 9 months.
>
>
> I thought the etoys/squeak image OLPC uses was free by now? (And  
> even free as
> in DFSG..)
>
> CC:ing Bert Freudenberg to get feedback from squeak upstream :-)


Note that I am an external contractor for VPRI so I cannot speak on  
their behalf (that would be the job of Kim Rose, VPRI's executive  
director). But here is my take:	

The OLPC etoys version is developed by the Viewpoints Research  
Institute (see vpri.org), a non-profit organization headed by Alan  
Kay. He was the boss of the original Squeak group at Apple, took  
Squeak to Disney, later to HP, and then to VPRI. VPRI negotiated with  
Apple to relicense the core under Apache 2.0, and they collected  
agreements to use external contributions under MIT (though the vast  
majority of code was authored by Alan's employees). They now release  
the OLPC etoys.image under Apache2.0/MIT which is perfectly compatible  
with DFSG, so in my understanding it can go into Debian now.

- Bert -