[Debian-olpc-devel] sugar debian stuff

[Jonas Smedegaard]

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Hi Andres (cc'ing the OLPC list at Alioth),

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:51:44PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote:
>I maintain a Debian distribution for the XO (called DebXO - 
>http://wiki.laptop.org/go/DebXO).  One of the desktops that is created 
>is a Sugar desktop.  I'm emailing for the following reasons:
>
>1) I'd like to know your plans for 0.82 packages.  Are you going to leave
>0.81 in lenny, or attempt to get 0.82 into it?

Lenny is frozen. I do not expect newer releases to automagically enter 
Lenny, and I do not intend to spend time convincing the release team to 
pin newer releases, except for cases of security issues.

You are most welcome to do such convincing: A good argument might be 
that the Sugar packages has no reverse dependencies (except for a single 
metapackage for debian-edu which I suspect is of no use with the current 
state of Sugar packages).

If you want to do this, then you should probably wait a bit, until all 
activity packages are corrected, as they currently are all wrongly 
installed below /usr/share/<activity> instead of the correct 
/usr/share/sugar/<activity>.


>2) Holger Levson worked on the DebXO Sugar desktop, but he's currently 
>pretty busy.  I was hoping to convince you to try out DebXO and get you 
>involved in development.  I noticed your frustration with the Ubuntu 
>Sugar folks; having an easy-to-use/install Debian system is a great 
>response to comments about Ubuntu on the XO!  :)

I would appreciate if you would engage in the common packaging effort 
for Debian, which should be beneficial for _any_ deb-based derived 
distribution.

I find it most effective to spend reusable time on the "mother" distro 
than on any specific derivative.

It won't calm me down to work on _another_ derivative: 

My frustration is about recognition of the structure of the "mother" of 
deb-based distros, so won't (in itself) be helped by working on yet 
another derivative.

That said, I am not "against" Ubuntu or DebXO. I have not yet looked 
closely at DebXO, and depending on its design choices I might find 
interesting to devote time directly on it. But not (currently, at least) 
in favor of working directly on Debian, and there is still some pending 
work there.

I would love for you to get involved in the shared packaging efforts at 
Alioth: Currently I do most of the work there, but Alioth is now on the 
radar of the Ubuntu Sugar developers and we are attempting to tune into 
each other at the moment. Would be great if you DebXO people (are you 
more that one?) could join as well, either just participate on the 
mailinglist, but preferrably do your packaging in the Gits I have 
created there.


What do you think?

And have I perhaps somehow misunderstood your request? What more 
specifically did you have in mind that in your opinion made more sense 
to do in the DebXO camp directly than shared across distros at Alioth?


Kind regards,

    - Jonas


P.S.

Please follow-up to the Alioth list rather than privately: 
debian-olpc-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org

P.P.S.

(It's "Levsen", not "Levson") :-)

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