The original author is more than willing to relicense to whatever we ask.<div>What do you suggest?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Sebastian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>

From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Cort Stratton</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cort@club.cc.cmu.edu">cort@club.cc.cmu.edu</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: 2010/8/13<br>Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] sugar-speak-activity and licensing of PyAIML<br>

To: Sebastian Silva &lt;<a href="mailto:sebastian@somosazucar.org">sebastian@somosazucar.org</a>&gt;<br><br><br>Hi Sebastian -- wow, I&#39;m amazed that my humble little free-time<br>
programming project is still alive and reaching such a broad audience!<br>
As you perhaps suspected, I never expected it to become that popular<br>
when I originally wrote PyAIML&#39;s quote-unquote &quot;license&quot;; it was just a<br>
bit of fine-print text at the bottom of the web site to give readers a<br>
chuckle.  Frankly, I&#39;m not even sure it succeeds on that front; forgive<br>
me, I was young :)  If the tongue-in-cheek license is preventing PyAIML<br>
from reaching more users, then I would be *more* than happy to modify<br>
the license terms to something more appropriate.  I&#39;ve been out of the<br>
open-source world for several years now; what&#39;s the preferred way to say<br>
&quot;use this code however you want, but please continue to credit the<br>
original author where appropriate, and don&#39;t blame me if anything goes<br>
wrong&quot;?<br>
<br>
 - cort<br>
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 04:58:58PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    Hello Cort,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    This is Sebastian Silva from the Sugar project.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    A couple of years ago Rafael Ortiz and I integrated PyAIML into<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    &quot;Speak&quot;, the robot that ships with Sugar and the +1 million OLPC<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    computers. After this effort, subsequent versions of Speak have<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    carried your program and some brains for Spanish and English.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    We are having a problem with your license and are wondering<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    if it would be possible to change it?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    I understand your disdain for legalese but I also think you were not<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    trying to stop us from distributing it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    Thanks for considering this.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    Sebastian<br>
</div>&gt;    2010/8/13 Luke Faraone &lt;[1]<a href="mailto:lfaraone@debian.org">lfaraone@debian.org</a>&gt;<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt;<br>
&gt;      Hi all,<br>
&gt;      Previous versions of sugar-speak-activity embedded PyAIML[1], an<br>
&gt;      Artificial Intelligence Markup Language interpreter. PyAIML suffers<br>
&gt;      from<br>
&gt;      having a rather unfortunate license[2], which I&#39;ll quote below in<br>
&gt;      its<br>
&gt;      entirety:<br>
&gt;      &gt; License Information<br>
&gt;      &gt;<br>
&gt;      &gt; I hate legalese. This software is free to use and distribute<br>
&gt;      however you&#39;d like. I&#39;m not aware of any catastrophic bugs, but<br>
&gt;      please don&#39;t come crying to me if this software fries your board.<br>
&gt;      Void where prohibited. No purchase necessary. You must be 18 or<br>
&gt;      older to make this call. For indoor or outdoor use ONLY. We live<br>
&gt;      for the One, we die for the One.<br>
&gt;      After discussion on #debian-devel, I&#39;ve come to the conclusion that<br>
&gt;      as<br>
&gt;      of today, the license is non-free. alsroot has stripped PyAIML from<br>
&gt;      the<br>
&gt;      newest version of Speak, 17[3], and Sebastian Dziallas had<br>
&gt;      developed a<br>
&gt;      patch he&#39;s used in Fedora[4], attached for completeness.<br>
&gt;      Therefore, if we package the new upstream version of Speak from the<br>
&gt;      tarball, and apply the patch to disable PyAIML support, we should<br>
&gt;      have<br>
&gt;      something working that is legally distributable.<br>
</div></div>&gt;      [1]: [2]<a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
&gt;      [2]: [3]<a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license</a><br>
&gt;      [3]:<br>
&gt;      [4]<a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.g" target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.g</a><br>
&gt;      z<br>
&gt;      [4]:<br>
&gt;      [5]<a href="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar" target="_blank">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar</a><br>
&gt;      -speak-no-aiml.patch<br>
&gt;      āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā<br>
&gt;      āLuke Faraone Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā āDebian /<br>
&gt;      Ubuntu Developerā®ā<br>
&gt;      ā[6]<a href="http://luke.faraone.cc" target="_blank">http://luke.faraone.cc</a> Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā ā°Sugar Labs,<br>
&gt;      Systems AdmināÆā<br>
&gt;      āPGP: 5189 2A7D 16D0 49BB 046B Ā DC77 9732 5DD8 F9FD D506 Ā  Ā  Ā<br>
&gt;      Ā  Ā ā<br>
&gt;      āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā<br>
<div class="im">&gt;      _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;      Debian-olpc-devel mailing list<br>
</div>&gt;      [7]<a href="mailto:Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
&gt;      [8]<a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-deve" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-deve</a><br>
&gt;      l<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    --<br>
&gt;    Sebastian Silva<br>
&gt;    [9]<a href="http://somosazucar.org/" target="_blank">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>
&gt;    &quot;Te imaginas si te pudieran enseƱar sĆ³lo a leer pero no a<br>
&gt;    escribir??&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    !DSPAM:4c65c5be175012114346637!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; References<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    1. mailto:<a href="mailto:lfaraone@debian.org">lfaraone@debian.org</a><br>
<div class="im">&gt;    2. <a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
</div>&gt;    3. <a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license</a><br>
&gt;    4. <a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.gz" target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.gz</a><br>
&gt;    5. <a href="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch" target="_blank">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch</a><br>
&gt;    6. <a href="http://luke.faraone.cc/" target="_blank">http://luke.faraone.cc/</a><br>
&gt;    7. mailto:<a href="mailto:Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
&gt;    8. <a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-devel</a><br>
&gt;    9. <a href="http://somosazucar.org/" target="_blank">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Sebastian Silva<br><a href="http://somosazucar.org/">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>&quot;Te imaginas si te pudieran enseñar sólo a leer pero no a escribir??&quot;<br>
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