The original author is more than willing to relicense to whatever we ask.<div>What do you suggest?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Sebastian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Cort Stratton</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cort@club.cc.cmu.edu">cort@club.cc.cmu.edu</a>></span><br>Date: 2010/8/13<br>Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] sugar-speak-activity and licensing of PyAIML<br>
To: Sebastian Silva <<a href="mailto:sebastian@somosazucar.org">sebastian@somosazucar.org</a>><br><br><br>Hi Sebastian -- wow, I'm amazed that my humble little free-time<br>
programming project is still alive and reaching such a broad audience!<br>
As you perhaps suspected, I never expected it to become that popular<br>
when I originally wrote PyAIML's quote-unquote "license"; it was just a<br>
bit of fine-print text at the bottom of the web site to give readers a<br>
chuckle. Frankly, I'm not even sure it succeeds on that front; forgive<br>
me, I was young :) If the tongue-in-cheek license is preventing PyAIML<br>
from reaching more users, then I would be *more* than happy to modify<br>
the license terms to something more appropriate. I've been out of the<br>
open-source world for several years now; what's the preferred way to say<br>
"use this code however you want, but please continue to credit the<br>
original author where appropriate, and don't blame me if anything goes<br>
wrong"?<br>
<br>
- cort<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 04:58:58PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello Cort,<br>
><br>
> This is Sebastian Silva from the Sugar project.<br>
><br>
> A couple of years ago Rafael Ortiz and I integrated PyAIML into<br>
><br>
> "Speak", the robot that ships with Sugar and the +1 million OLPC<br>
><br>
> computers. After this effort, subsequent versions of Speak have<br>
><br>
> carried your program and some brains for Spanish and English.<br>
><br>
> We are having a problem with your license and are wondering<br>
><br>
> if it would be possible to change it?<br>
><br>
> I understand your disdain for legalese but I also think you were not<br>
><br>
> trying to stop us from distributing it.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for considering this.<br>
><br>
> Sebastian<br>
</div>> 2010/8/13 Luke Faraone <[1]<a href="mailto:lfaraone@debian.org">lfaraone@debian.org</a>><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">><br>
> Hi all,<br>
> Previous versions of sugar-speak-activity embedded PyAIML[1], an<br>
> Artificial Intelligence Markup Language interpreter. PyAIML suffers<br>
> from<br>
> having a rather unfortunate license[2], which I'll quote below in<br>
> its<br>
> entirety:<br>
> > License Information<br>
> ><br>
> > I hate legalese. This software is free to use and distribute<br>
> however you'd like. I'm not aware of any catastrophic bugs, but<br>
> please don't come crying to me if this software fries your board.<br>
> Void where prohibited. No purchase necessary. You must be 18 or<br>
> older to make this call. For indoor or outdoor use ONLY. We live<br>
> for the One, we die for the One.<br>
> After discussion on #debian-devel, I've come to the conclusion that<br>
> as<br>
> of today, the license is non-free. alsroot has stripped PyAIML from<br>
> the<br>
> newest version of Speak, 17[3], and Sebastian Dziallas had<br>
> developed a<br>
> patch he's used in Fedora[4], attached for completeness.<br>
> Therefore, if we package the new upstream version of Speak from the<br>
> tarball, and apply the patch to disable PyAIML support, we should<br>
> have<br>
> something working that is legally distributable.<br>
</div></div>> [1]: [2]<a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
> [2]: [3]<a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license</a><br>
> [3]:<br>
> [4]<a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.g" target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.g</a><br>
> z<br>
> [4]:<br>
> [5]<a href="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar" target="_blank">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar</a><br>
> -speak-no-aiml.patch<br>
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> Systems AdmināÆā<br>
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</div>> [7]<a href="mailto:Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
> [8]<a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-deve" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-deve</a><br>
> l<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Sebastian Silva<br>
> [9]<a href="http://somosazucar.org/" target="_blank">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>
> "Te imaginas si te pudieran enseƱar sĆ³lo a leer pero no a<br>
> escribir??"<br>
><br>
> !DSPAM:4c65c5be175012114346637!<br>
><br>
> References<br>
><br>
> 1. mailto:<a href="mailto:lfaraone@debian.org">lfaraone@debian.org</a><br>
<div class="im">> 2. <a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
</div>> 3. <a href="http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license" target="_blank">http://pyaiml.sourceforge.net/#license</a><br>
> 4. <a href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.gz" target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/speak-17.tar.gz</a><br>
> 5. <a href="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch" target="_blank">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/sugar-speak/devel/sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch</a><br>
> 6. <a href="http://luke.faraone.cc/" target="_blank">http://luke.faraone.cc/</a><br>
> 7. mailto:<a href="mailto:Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">Debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
> 8. <a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-olpc-devel</a><br>
> 9. <a href="http://somosazucar.org/" target="_blank">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Sebastian Silva<br><a href="http://somosazucar.org/">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>"Te imaginas si te pudieran enseñar sólo a leer pero no a escribir??"<br>
</div>