From daniel.leidert at wgdd.de Thu May 28 21:24:17 2015 From: daniel.leidert at wgdd.de (Daniel Leidert) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 23:24:17 +0200 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) Message-ID: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> x-post Hi everybody, I was part of the Debian XML/SGML team [1] for quite some time and it was fun maintaining the whole DocBook toolchain. Unfortunately I'm not using it anymore and thus have lost interest in these packages. Now after Jessie has been released, I'm finally stepping back as maintainer and as a group member of the team. This means, that all docbook*, sgml*, xml* packages are effectively _orphaned_, because there isn't any other active member in this group anymore (with the exception of the libxml2 maintainers and probably a few other packages). The good news is, most of the packages really don't require much attention. There are packages, which have not been touched since Wheezy! The exceptions probably are: - docbook-xsl: active upstream, lots of minor fixes, very often used, probably backports related - xml-core: probably needs a rewrite to be policy compliant and to fix #763598 - might be a good idea to change the catalog registration There might be some more packages, which require serious attention. There are also some RFHs open. I'm hereby offering my help to everybody, who has interest in taking over these packages, to ease the maintenance transition for at least a month or two. Then I'm out :) Feel free to contact me, if you have any questions, and to NMU these packages. I hope, fresh blood will revive the team and lead to fresh ideas for the policy, the catalog system and the whole XML/SGML core of Debian. Regards, Daniel [1] http://debian-xml-sgml.alioth.debian.org From osamu at debian.org Sat May 30 14:28:49 2015 From: osamu at debian.org (Osamu Aoki) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 23:28:49 +0900 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) In-Reply-To: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> References: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> Message-ID: <20150530142849.GA25219@goofy.local> Hi Daniel, Thanks a lot for maintaining these in good shape. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:24:17PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > x-post > > Hi everybody, > > I was part of the Debian XML/SGML team [1] for quite some time and it > was fun maintaining the whole DocBook toolchain. Unfortunately I'm not > using it anymore and thus have lost interest in these packages. Now > after Jessie has been released, I'm finally stepping back as maintainer > and as a group member of the team. > > This means, that all docbook*, sgml*, xml* packages are effectively > _orphaned_, because there isn't any other active member in this group > anymore (with the exception of the libxml2 maintainers and probably a > few other packages). Actually, I see very few DDs working on document processing tool chain including tex. > The good news is, most of the packages really don't require much > attention. There are packages, which have not been touched since Wheezy! > The exceptions probably are: Very true. > I hope, fresh blood will revive the team and lead to fresh ideas for the > policy, the catalog system and the whole XML/SGML core of Debian. I hope so too. (I am maintaining debiandoc-sgml ...) Osamu From debacle at debian.org Sat May 30 17:00:12 2015 From: debacle at debian.org (W. Martin Borgert) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 19:00:12 +0200 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) In-Reply-To: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> References: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> Message-ID: <20150530170012.GA1868@fama> On 2015-05-28 23:24, Daniel Leidert wrote: > I was part of the Debian XML/SGML team [1] for quite some time and it > was fun maintaining the whole DocBook toolchain. Unfortunately I'm not > using it anymore and thus have lost interest in these packages. Now > after Jessie has been released, I'm finally stepping back as maintainer > and as a group member of the team. Daniel, many thanks for your years of constant and enormous work on the DocBook/XML toolchain. Just out of curiosity: What are you using now? > The good news is, most of the packages really don't require much > attention. I can only confirm this. I'm using docbook-x[ms]l a lot and everything works smoothly for me. > I hope, fresh blood will revive the team and lead to fresh ideas for the > policy, the catalog system and the whole XML/SGML core of Debian. Alternatively, stuff could me moved to collab-maint git or svn maybe? From kristoffer.rose at gmail.com Sun May 31 02:08:04 2015 From: kristoffer.rose at gmail.com (Kristoffer Rose) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 22:08:04 -0400 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) Message-ID: Dear Daniel and Osamu, I have XML expertise, I am a DD, and I maintain nothing for now (only have a few ITPs out). Any chance you would be at DebCamp and could do a two day intense "catchup" on the involved work? Best, Kris On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Thanks a lot for maintaining these in good shape. > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:24:17PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > x-post > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I was part of the Debian XML/SGML team [1] for quite some time and it > > was fun maintaining the whole DocBook toolchain. Unfortunately I'm not > > using it anymore and thus have lost interest in these packages. Now > > after Jessie has been released, I'm finally stepping back as maintainer > > and as a group member of the team. > > > > This means, that all docbook*, sgml*, xml* packages are effectively > > _orphaned_, because there isn't any other active member in this group > > anymore (with the exception of the libxml2 maintainers and probably a > > few other packages). > > Actually, I see very few DDs working on document processing tool chain > including tex. > > > The good news is, most of the packages really don't require much > > attention. There are packages, which have not been touched since Wheezy! > > The exceptions probably are: > > Very true. > > > I hope, fresh blood will revive the team and lead to fresh ideas for the > > policy, the catalog system and the whole XML/SGML core of Debian. > > I hope so too. (I am maintaining debiandoc-sgml ...) > > Osamu > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sgml-REQUEST at lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster at lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150530142849.GA25219 at goofy.local > > -- Kristoffer H. Rose, Ph.D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.leidert.spam at gmx.net Sun May 31 06:33:03 2015 From: daniel.leidert.spam at gmx.net (Daniel Leidert) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 08:33:03 +0200 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) In-Reply-To: <20150530170012.GA1868@fama> References: <1432848257.7739.20.camel@wgdd.de> <20150530170012.GA1868@fama> Message-ID: <1433053983.1918.6.camel@gmx.net> Am Samstag, den 30.05.2015, 19:00 +0200 schrieb W. Martin Borgert: > On 2015-05-28 23:24, Daniel Leidert wrote: [not using DB toolchain] > Just out of curiosity: What are you using now? I haven't done much documentation lately. But I use GROFF for writing manual pages for Debian packages. Even with basic *ROFF knowledge, this is done easily - wrote a blog article about it once [1]. For larger documents I'd use TeX. [..] > > I hope, fresh blood will revive the team and lead to fresh ideas for the > > policy, the catalog system and the whole XML/SGML core of Debian. > > Alternatively, stuff could me moved to collab-maint git or svn > maybe? That should be perfectly fine (also moving to GIT/$whateverVCS inside debian-xml-sgml). JFTR: I also think, we might still have a chair in the OASIS consortium(???). [1] http://www.wgdd.de/2009/09/writing-manual-pages-in-groff-1.html Regards, Daniel From daniel.leidert at wgdd.de Sun May 31 06:40:27 2015 From: daniel.leidert at wgdd.de (Daniel Leidert) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 08:40:27 +0200 Subject: [xml/sgml] Stepping back from the Debian XML/SGML team, effectively orphaning all my packages (docbook*, xml-core, xmlto, etc. pp) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1433054427.1918.10.camel@wgdd.de> Am Samstag, den 30.05.2015, 22:08 -0400 schrieb Kristoffer Rose: > Dear Daniel and Osamu, > > > I have XML expertise, I am a DD, and I maintain nothing for now (only > have a few ITPs out). > > > Any chance you would be at DebCamp and could do a two day intense > "catchup" on the involved work? I have not yet registered for DebConf, but that sounds like a good idea :) I'll check this out asap! Regards, Daniel