[Freedombox-discuss] Discussion system for FreedomBox Foundation

[Marc Manthey]

On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:09 PM, ya knygar wrote:

>> What about timezones  ?
>
> persistence, the best of concurrent editing shows up
> when there are people online on one theme, just amazing,
> and when people offline - it could look like a wiki

i absolutly agree with you "live" is allways much better,
because questions appear in between a discussion or
driving in another direction, so its more inspirational and creativ.

>
>> Whats the difference between etherpad and IRC ?
>
> the point is in time economy - when the structuring of wiki
> like result
> is real-time driven by people that could chat nearby,
> in such environment - ideas are discussed and produced
> more rapidly, with less chance of repeating what is already
> said but in another wiki or another topic..
>
> please, see example without a chat -
> http://etherpad.mozilla.com:9000/testday-20110715
> example with a chat http://etherpad.mozilla.com:9000/qa-auto-mozmill-crowd
> example with a big chat - and big list - http://primarypad.com/OeMj2ZnZqo
> (sorry for adv, can't find bigger)
> there are  https://github.com/toolness/all-my-etherpads#readme
> automate html converter
> that could make it like http://htmlpad.org/qa-auto-mozmill-crowd/
> there are no html mark-up, but if you'll see the source of that page -
> it creates a simple mark-spaced
> mock-up that could be nicely automated into wiki, i think.


ohh ok,  i understand now , good thing  !! it remind me on subethaedit  
for mac

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/

its made for collaborative programming


>
>> All RFCs for at the IETF are developed thru mailing list and some   
>> people, like me ,
>> that are not native english speakers and  cant follow a very  
>> technical  live discussion so easily,
>> therefore i  would prefer Asynchronous communication. :)
>
> strong point, but Etherpad encourages the result in Wiki alike style
> but easily changeable, and far more user-friendly;
> shortened-style tech talks have their place in chat,
> like in -


yes, i understand what you  mean now ,

> excuse me - broken link..
> like in  - chats that German police have
> taken - http://etherpad.org/2011/05/20/german-police-raid-etherpad-deployment/
> ..

thats very interesting because i  remember what happend that day :))

http://kcode.de/images/misc/pp-down_overview.svg


greetings


Marc


>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Marc Manthey <marc at let.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:05 AM, ya knygar wrote:
>>
>>> Mailing lists aren't a solution for a wide discussion,
>>> even with Google Groups client -  it isn't.
>>> Nor forums or wiki's.
>>>
>>> i prefer etherpad as it is open for every-one Now
>>> and proven by time,
>>
>>> So - i recommend to transfer a discussion from list/IRC/Wiki to
>>> something like Etherpad (Wave?)
>>
>> Synchronous communication is nice to have BUT  its not that easy   
>> and has
>> limitations :)
>> What about timezones  ? people have familys , work and commitments,  
>> so
>> possibly just an time frame
>> from about an hour per day, but this could be at 4 am your time.
>>
>> All RFCs for at the IETF are developed thru mailing list and some   
>> people,
>> like me ,
>> that are not native english speakers and  cant follow a very  
>> technical  live
>> discussion so easily,
>> therefore i  would prefer Asynchronous communication. :)
>>
>> http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/articledetail.cfm? 
>> itemnumber=13572
>>
>>
>>> for real-time wide and productive discussion with a nice  
>>> persistence,
>>
>>> and - use a dynamic system like Etherpad - for discussion, after
>>> awhile it turns like a cute system that does the job.
>>
>> Whats the difference between etherpad and IRC ?
>>
>> have you seen this ?
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/UserRequirements/BrainStorm
>>
>> or this:
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox#Software_.26_protocols
>>
>> All discussions are stored here
>>  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/
>> Just pull it  from there into a wiki :)
>>
>> cu
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> P.S. But we could try hangout  aswell :)
>> https://talkgadget.google.com/talkgadget/hangout/
>>

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