[Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox-discuss Digest, Vol 11, Issue 42

[Jay Payne]

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On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01,
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>   1. Re: Rouge Freedomboxes and government intervention
>      (Jonas Smedegaard)
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> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:34:29 +0200
> From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk>
> To: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Rouge Freedomboxes and government
>    intervention
> Message-ID: <20110622093429.GC16465 at jones.dk>
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> On 11-06-22 at 09:08am, bertagaz at ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:37:35PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> I want to address the problem of central logging of the activities
>>> of the masses _separately_ from the more complex problem of
>>> activists needing secrecy, anonymity and other powerful features.
>>> Because the first is easier and quicker solved than the second.  And
>>> because the first helps solve the second!
>>
>> And my point was to say that this separation (even explained again
>> like this, which was the way I understood your first mail), isn't this
>> obvious. Users are not so clearly divided in "the one who cares", and
>> "the one who don't" and helping "the one who don't" won't just so
>> obviously helps the others.  At least it isn't a reason not to think
>> and prepare all use cases.
>
> We should continuously have all possible use cases in mind, but
> prioritize those easy to provide rather than those with most direct
> benefit for users involved in most obvious freedom-enabling activities.
>
> Both segments care, else they don't buy FreedomBox at all.
>
> Example: Karla is increasingly frustrated with her government, is
> politically active, and may start an uprising in 3 months.  Joanna is
> supportive of political activism but is more into partying and chasing
> guys, not willing to get up on the barricades.  Joanna and Karla both
> want a FreedomBox.  FreedomBox-dating already exist in Debian testing,
> but FreedomBox-stealth is still so flaky it is not even packaged for
> Debian yet.
>
> Do we then...
>
> a) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 6 months with -dating only,
>    and FreedomBox 2.0 in maybe 1 year with -stealth added,
>    prioritizing all parts being reliable and maintainable.
> b) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 6 months with -dating and -stealth,
>    prioritizing urgent features for urgent matters (even if flaky
>    and perhaps even dangerous for Karla to use).
> c) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 1 month with -dating and -stealth,
>    prioritizing urgent features for urgent matters (even if flaky
>    and perhaps even dangerous for both Karla and Joanna to use).
>
>
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>
> - Jonas
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> * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt
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