[Freedombox-discuss] towards a business plan

[Marc Petit-Huguenin]

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On 03/06/2011 03:17 PM, Paul Gardner-Stephen wrote:
> Hello Yannick,
> 
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Yannick <sevmek at free.fr> wrote:
>> Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:46 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
>>> On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 07:15:18PM -0800, Thomas Lord wrote:
>>>> Step 1:
>>>>
>>>> Let's pick 5 apps.   I suggest email mailbox hosting, chat,
>>>> instant messaging, blogging and FB-ish "walls".
>>>
>>> What is the difference between "chat" and "instant messaging"?
>>>
>>> If first one is realtime voice chat, I suggest calling it telephony to
>>> avoid misunderstanding.
>>>
>>> And I suggest to aim even lower that for first iterations.  Not because
>>> any of them are weak as selling points, but because not all of them
>>> really exist yet (or are prepackaged in Debian, if that matters yo you).
>>
>> Nowadays, there is no more such difference between Instant Messaging,
>> Voice/video Chat and Telephony. It all converges.
> 
> Actually, there is a big difference from a technical perspective.
> IM can handle latency, jitter and other network issues much better
> than voice can, unless you are happy with >1sec voice latency to
> buffer your way through these problems.
> 
>> One issue is there is 2 free (as in speech) protocols: XMPP and SIP.
>>
>> Personnaly, I would prefer SIP because it has a focus on telephony
>> features, stong backup by hardware vendors for real telephony and allow
>> to call "real" phones too. The downside is the complexity of the
>> specification and interoperability issues.
> 
> Yes, SIP is very good in many ways, but at ServalProject.org at least,
> we are looking to create a simple alternative protocol (open of
> course) which will tolerate latency and excessive packet loss much
> better than SIP does, 

I guess you mean RTP, not SIP here.

> and will be substantially more bandwidth
> efficient when calls are not in progress.

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