[Freedombox-discuss] Connecting People (Zot and a link dump)

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 7 November 2011 11:34, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 November 2011 04:28, Nick Daly <nick.m.daly at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com> writes:
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>>> I'm listening to the comments right now.  Evan just said:
>>>
>>> "the big thing we hear from our users is we would like a web that
>>> works like The Web, not one that works like an email inbox"
>>>
>>> This will be soooooo much easier with FBX where everyone has complete
>>> control of their box, keys and web server ... I think once we have a
>>> few boxes talking set up it's going to be a whole lot clearer.
>>
>> Precisely.  I'm just trying to weigh what options we have for my
>> (admittedly still unclear) ideas of how the system should work.  It'd be
>> nice if the (box-to-box, friend-to-friend, encrypted, and customized)
>> communication bit was already worked out, and nobody needed to invent
>> any wheels.
>>
>> The big questions are: how do they talk?  How should they talk?  There
>> are a couple options out there already, and I'm nearly certain there's
>> no one-size-fits all solution, there are lots and lots of use-cases.
>>
>> I'm also not convinced there's an existing solution that precisely fits
>> the project's (or at least my) ideals.  I'm looking for something like
>> Webfinger over a DHT based on GPG that provides both routing and
>> identity information.  If this sounds interesting to anybody, feel free
>> to ping me off list.
>
> Still trying to get the minutes but from what I gathered:
>
> - People are moving away from XML and towards JSON
>
> - OStatus hasnt gained the adoption it would have liked
>
> - Salmon seems particularly hard to implement with everyone seeming to
> do it a slightly different way
>
>
> I've had a brief look at zot, I'm highly skeptical it can gain adoption
>
> - http://purl.org/zot/1.0 did not resolve for me
>
> - Unsure if the OStatus folks will want to run with it
>
> - Unsure if it's using new URI schemes, scaling, IANA acceptance etc.
>
> - Unsure how much it's been peer reviewed.
>
>
> General thoughts:
>
> - This is a problem that no one has solved yet.
>
> - The wordpress blog you run on your plug server has potential to be
> developed into a web based social net, perhaps even possible with
> something like drupal
>
> - GNU Social still has potential as a microblogging solution, perhaps more
>
> - Retroshare works well with PGP and IM
>
> - There seem some plans to develop an end to end encrypted XMPP / GPG
> thing (dont hold your breath ;) )
>
> - I think the principle of good design are 'low coupling, high
> cohesion'.  Meaning as far as possible dont try and be FBX specific.
>
> - Apache 2 with a self signed cert is a very good start.  Build up
> incrementally through trial and error.
>
> - I think the correct way to model things by FAR is what facebook have
> done with the open graph protocol.  A FOSS version of that with data
> freedom, and keep your own logs.

Forgot to mention gwibber which is pretty nice and I guess most here
would be familiar with.

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>> Nick
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