[Freedombox-discuss] Best way to get involved?

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Tue Feb 7 21:24:49 UTC 2012


On 12-02-07 at 09:45pm, Michael Rauch wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >On 12-02-05 at 09:35pm, Michael Rauch wrote:
> >>RedHat's Augeas project might fit in the config middle layer: 
> >>http://augeas.net/
[snip]
> >Augeas can be optionally used with Config::Model.
[snip]
> >More on Config::Model here: 
> >http://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade
> >
> >...and its use with FreedomBox here: 
> >http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/BoxConfiguration
> 
> thank you for the pointers to the wikipages. how is the current status 
> of adoption of Config::Model in Debian? the wikipage states that it's 
> a proposal.

Config::Model and Augeas both has zero adoption with debconf currently.

Please note, however, that Debian works "backwards" regarding rules: 
Instead of defining rules and then obey them, rules (in particular 
"Debian Policy") evolve by documenting concensus.  So don't wait for a 
proposal to become a rule but actively pick sensible rules to help gain 
momentum.



> while reading about PackageConfigUpgrade, i realized that i don't
> get those questions about modified config files in ubuntu. does
> anybody know how configuration upgrades/merges are handled there?

As a derivative of Debian it is highly unlikely that Ubuntu have ripped 
out such essential mechanism as debconf.  More likely you just haven't 
messed much with configfiles and afterwards upgraded to a version of the 
owning package that provided a change to same configfile.  Which is when 
problems occur - not if leaving /etc only for packages to deal with.

...which is the whole point here: We want packages to become flexible 
enough to deal with not only a single set of "Debian defaults" but also 
any and all changes that we need for FreedomBox installs.  Handled by 
the packages themselves so that any conflicts is treated as a severe bug 
in Debian, not something specific to FreedomBox!


Regards,

 - Jonas

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