[Freedombox-discuss] Some advice on moving Plinth forward?

Melvin Carvalho melvincarvalho at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 08:45:01 UTC 2012


On 11 February 2012 08:53, Daniel Bryan <danbryan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I love the idea of GPG for WebID, though that's a much deeper problem to
> solve than basic configuration so I reckon I'll leave something like that
> alone for the moment :)
>
> dyndns could be in the same boat, not sure.
>
> Getting Apache2 up and running with simple setup would be a huge win, but
> its configuration is notoriously complex so I don't feel comfortable trying
> to implement that first off.
>
> Personal XMPP servers might be a good candidate for a quick win. Could
> incorporate some simple domain name setup, and some kind of system that can
> verify that your box has ownership of a particular domain that you want it
> to. Makes me wonder about the scope here, really - should we then have forms
> for creating accounts for friends? Should we integrate guides for using
> stuff like OTR Chat? Do we also then give the user a nudge in the
> installation of privacy-respecting chat clients on their desktop or mobile?
>
>> Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
>> server component on a desktop?
>
>
> How do you mean?

Let's say I run debian but dont yet have a freedombox.  Would it be
possible to test out some of the configurations on a desktop?

>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 11 February 2012 07:47, Daniel Bryan <danbryan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Not sure whether I've actually posted to the list before but I've been
>> > closely following FreedomBox since late 2010.
>> >
>> > I got a chance to talk to Bdale a little at Linux Conf. Au 2012 and I
>> > decided to have a go at hacking on Plinth.
>> >
>> > I'm keen to get started, and I've been discussing it with Alistair
>> > Davidson,
>> > who's a UX guy.
>> >
>> > Basically we want to rapidly prototype a simple end-user service
>> > configuration system. Does anyone have an idea of what it'd be really
>> > good
>> > to get up and running? Web server? Routing? GPG / other ident. stuff?
>>
>> I think GPG is a given.  It's going to be important to have a strong
>> passphrase.
>>
>> Apache 2 I think makes most sense as a web server.  It should run HTTP
>> with a self signed certificate.
>>
>> Apart from in Eben Moglen's original "freedom in the cloud" talk
>> dyndns has not come up much, but I'd suggest that would be really
>> nice.  See below:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA&t=37m30s
>>
>> I'd encourage people to use the same key for GPG and a WebID, this is
>> what I do and have had excellent results.  There's some code to
>> convert here:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/1505613
>>
>> Aside from sending your GPG key to a key server you can also put it in
>> your homepage/user profile using some simple HTML5 markup.  It's quite
>> easy I can provide the markup when we're ready.
>>
>> I think this combination will be one of the strongest identity
>> solutions anywhere.  And matches quite closely Eben's original vision,
>> and extends to all the other cool stuff that's been mentioned on the
>> list.
>>
>> James mentioned privoxy too.  I'm sure there are other points to be
>> added such as xmpp, monkeysphere, tor etc.
>>
>> Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
>> server component on a desktop?
>>
>> >
>> > We'll eventually need to have some kind of spec for how a developer can
>> > come
>> > along and contribute the configuration builder for a given service to
>> > Plinth
>> > in a standard format, but for now I think it'd be best to focus on
>> > usability
>> > and user experience.
>> >
>> > Has anyone else been looking particularly at this stuff? I'm sort of a
>> > bit
>> > lost for a start, but I have spare time and I reckon I'm a pretty killer
>> > Python dev so if I can get some direction to push me over the edge
>> > that'd be
>> > great :)
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
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