[Freedombox-discuss] Some advice on moving Plinth forward?

Daniel Bryan danbryan at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 09:35:02 UTC 2012


>
> Let's say I run debian but dont yet have a freedombox.  Would it
> be possible to test out some of the configurations on a desktop?


Personally my development environment for the time being is going to be a
combination of desktop OSX and Debian Testing, and maybe a Debian VPS when
stuff gets a bit more serious, so for me at least that'll be a priority.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Melvin Carvalho
<melvincarvalho at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 11 February 2012 08:53, Daniel Bryan <danbryan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I love the idea of GPG for WebID, though that's a much deeper problem to
> > solve than basic configuration so I reckon I'll leave something like that
> > alone for the moment :)
> >
> > dyndns could be in the same boat, not sure.
> >
> > Getting Apache2 up and running with simple setup would be a huge win, but
> > its configuration is notoriously complex so I don't feel comfortable
> trying
> > to implement that first off.
> >
> > Personal XMPP servers might be a good candidate for a quick win. Could
> > incorporate some simple domain name setup, and some kind of system that
> can
> > verify that your box has ownership of a particular domain that you want
> it
> > to. Makes me wonder about the scope here, really - should we then have
> forms
> > for creating accounts for friends? Should we integrate guides for using
> > stuff like OTR Chat? Do we also then give the user a nudge in the
> > installation of privacy-respecting chat clients on their desktop or
> mobile?
> >
> >> Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
> >> server component on a desktop?
> >
> >
> > How do you mean?
>
> Let's say I run debian but dont yet have a freedombox.  Would it be
> possible to test out some of the configurations on a desktop?
>
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Melvin Carvalho <
> melvincarvalho at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11 February 2012 07:47, Daniel Bryan <danbryan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Not sure whether I've actually posted to the list before but I've been
> >> > closely following FreedomBox since late 2010.
> >> >
> >> > I got a chance to talk to Bdale a little at Linux Conf. Au 2012 and I
> >> > decided to have a go at hacking on Plinth.
> >> >
> >> > I'm keen to get started, and I've been discussing it with Alistair
> >> > Davidson,
> >> > who's a UX guy.
> >> >
> >> > Basically we want to rapidly prototype a simple end-user service
> >> > configuration system. Does anyone have an idea of what it'd be really
> >> > good
> >> > to get up and running? Web server? Routing? GPG / other ident. stuff?
> >>
> >> I think GPG is a given.  It's going to be important to have a strong
> >> passphrase.
> >>
> >> Apache 2 I think makes most sense as a web server.  It should run HTTP
> >> with a self signed certificate.
> >>
> >> Apart from in Eben Moglen's original "freedom in the cloud" talk
> >> dyndns has not come up much, but I'd suggest that would be really
> >> nice.  See below:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA&t=37m30s
> >>
> >> I'd encourage people to use the same key for GPG and a WebID, this is
> >> what I do and have had excellent results.  There's some code to
> >> convert here:
> >>
> >> https://gist.github.com/1505613
> >>
> >> Aside from sending your GPG key to a key server you can also put it in
> >> your homepage/user profile using some simple HTML5 markup.  It's quite
> >> easy I can provide the markup when we're ready.
> >>
> >> I think this combination will be one of the strongest identity
> >> solutions anywhere.  And matches quite closely Eben's original vision,
> >> and extends to all the other cool stuff that's been mentioned on the
> >> list.
> >>
> >> James mentioned privoxy too.  I'm sure there are other points to be
> >> added such as xmpp, monkeysphere, tor etc.
> >>
> >> Side question:  would there be any possibility of funning the web
> >> server component on a desktop?
> >>
> >> >
> >> > We'll eventually need to have some kind of spec for how a developer
> can
> >> > come
> >> > along and contribute the configuration builder for a given service to
> >> > Plinth
> >> > in a standard format, but for now I think it'd be best to focus on
> >> > usability
> >> > and user experience.
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone else been looking particularly at this stuff? I'm sort of a
> >> > bit
> >> > lost for a start, but I have spare time and I reckon I'm a pretty
> killer
> >> > Python dev so if I can get some direction to push me over the edge
> >> > that'd be
> >> > great :)
> >> >
> >> > Daniel
> >> >
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