[Freedombox-discuss] SPAM

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Tue Mar 13 21:20:34 UTC 2012


On 12-03-13 at 01:37pm, 
fbox-discuss20120313.neophyte_rep at ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Jonas Smedegaard - dr at jones.dk wrote:
> > On 12-03-13 at 12:00pm, 
> > fbox-discuss20120313.neophyte_rep at ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> >> I have received a solicitation to help transfer a large sum of 
> >> money to the U.S. from our troops in Iraq.  I already understand 
> >> this is a phishing SPAM message.  The only reason I post this is 
> >> the address used was only available in the archives of 
> >> freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org, because I use a 
> >> whitelist relay for all my email which allows me to use a unique 
> >> address for all my correspondence.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the list archive could have better obfuscation of the 
> >> addresses than the form "user at domain.tld"?  Surely that is just 
> >> as easy to scan for as "user at domain.tld".  I've seen other 
> >> obfuscations such as "user at doma..." on other lists.  Perhaps 
> >> someone could implement such an obfuscation here?
> >
> > Please don't obfuscate - that hurts users but less so spammers: 
> > Schemes easy for users to figure out are easy for spammers to figure 
> > out too.
> 
> If one is concerned about privacy, why would one want ANY reader of 
> the archive to be able to deduce one's address?

Because one can be concerned about privacy without supporting anonymity.

Also, one can be concerned about privacy yet favor transparency over 
privacy for some situations - e.g. software development.

In Debian we expect all participants to have an identity. You are free 
to operate under a pseudonym, if you prefer.  But anonymity we cannot 
provide you.


> > Not some other archive somewhere?
> 
> Some other archive would most likely be a copy of the archive 
> maintained by the list server.  Thus an obfuscation at the server will 
> be an obfuscation of any copy.  It is possible for a bot to subscribe, 
> but that is a higher cost approach.

It is less costly and more reliable for an independent competitive 
web-archives-for-public-lists service to subscribe rather than scrape 
the canonical web representation of the archive.


 - Jonas

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