Although I think it would be great if Freedom Boxes came preconfigured and able to use Tor, I do think that if whatever gets built ends up being incompatible with normal web browsers and e-mail clients, then it will never get any traction and will never achieve its goals. If I can only connect and communicate with other Freedom Box users, then there is no reason to buy such a box in the first place. Chicken and egg. We have to be "backwards compatible" with the "normal Internet".<br>
<br>I am of course biased, as I am working on a solution to make standard DNS and HTTP/HTTPS work just fine, even for machines hidden behind a bunch of firewalls (if you expect normal users to reconfigure their routers, then you are again never going to reach the mass market). :-)<br>
<br>I hope to drop some code next week sometime and will be looking for beta-testers.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Jon Spriggs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@sprig.gs">jon@sprig.gs</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On 2 September 2010 14:13, John Goerzen <<a href="mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org">jgoerzen@complete.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 09/01/2010 02:41 PM, Jon Spriggs wrote:<br>
><br>
>> As an aside, I'd be interested in being involved in writing this, if<br>
>> not doing a serious chunk of it :)<br>
><br>
> As far as I'm concerned, that is a winning argument for your proposal right<br>
> there.<br>
<br>
</div>That said, my coding skills aren't great, so I'd be happy to start<br>
something, and then ask for contributions.<br>
<br>
I'm also working on a couple of other projects, some of which are<br>
being actively used at events in coming weeks, so this won't have all<br>
my focus right now, but I'm really keen to start something going here.<br>
<br>
I think if we agree on a common API for propagating details, then this<br>
could have a use outside of the FreedomBox project, and perhaps into<br>
more of the distributed social networking services (such as StatusNet,<br>
Elgg and more)<br>
<br>
I've created a Gitorious project<br>
(<a href="http://gitorious.org/socialservicefinder" target="_blank">http://gitorious.org/socialservicefinder</a>) and I'm looking forward to<br>
more people getting involved ;)<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
--<br>
Jon "The Nice Guy" Spriggs<br>
<br>
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