On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Yannick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sevmek@free.fr">sevmek@free.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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* blogging<br>
In the same way if we plan to put some service for blogging, like a web<br>
server e.g. Nginx+php/mysql support, with a nice tool to start your own<br>
blog e.g. wordpress, what if your ISP provider puts you behind a NAT for<br>
the port 80? How will people be able to read your blog? One solution is<br>
mesh wifi, i.e. everybody being a provider. It will probably need some<br>
engineering.<br></blockquote><div><br>This is exactly the problem I am working on, with PageKite ( <a href="https://pagekite.net/">https://pagekite.net/</a> ). We hope to have official Debian packages ready within the next couple of months.<br>
<br>You touched on this and also e-mail, both of which are areas where FreedomBoxes can be assumed to need some "help" from the cloud if they are to provide self-hosted services which are backwards compatible and interoperable with today's Internet.<br>
<br>PageKite is really, really easy to use to make a self-hosted website visible to the outside world (circumventing NAT and all that other nasty stuff), but it is so because there is a business (my company) behind it providing in-the-cloud infrastructure. I believe that for the FreedomBox to scale to thousands or millions of end users, such support businesses will need to exist, and at some point we'll want to have a discussion about what they should look like: how must companies behave in order to be "Freedom and FreedomBox compatible"? :-)<br>
<br>Of course, some will just reject commercial involvement entirely... but not all, and I think some of those 1000s of small businesses will be providing on-line support services to FreedomBoxes, and we don't want them to become freedom inhibitors either.<br>
<br>-- <br></div></div>Bjarni R. Einarsson<br>The Beanstalks Project ehf.<br><br>Making personal web-pages fly: <a href="http://pagekite.net/" target="_blank">http://pagekite.net/</a><br>