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class=037182406-25072011><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> Hi
Nathan,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=037182406-25072011> </SPAN><STRONG>On Behalf Of </STRONG>nathan
nolast<BR></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=037182406-25072011> </SPAN>i disagree
with you analysis<BR>if freedombox exists to only use existing
services/applications/tools/protocols, then the incentive for users to purchase
a freedombox only to use it for a task that can already be achieved on ones
personal computer would be extremely low. Im not buying another plugserver
to host a diaspora pod, tor exit node ect ect ect. It would be a disservice to
the community that desperately needs the type of services proposed... anonymous
and privacy aware services that are not subject to centralized services that are
subject to oppression, censorship, and a total take down. <SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=037182406-25072011><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I find
it appealing that the project is using existing proven independent
applications and that the project will just be responsibly for forwarding
updates (upgrades, security) to FBX owners. I find it appealing that the
software is independent of the project. You are one of the lucky ones who can
setup their own DNS, email, voice and web servers at home. I think most people
are like me, who are unable to setup their own system or if they
do set up their own system. they lack the confidence that it has been set
up securely. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=037182406-25072011><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
signed up to Tondio (plugserver) which sells their solution on the basis that
if Tonido went bust tomorrow (1), their centralised P2P network would go
down with the loss of using their propriety apps, but you would still have
all your data stored locally (true). However, Tonido fails to mention that all
your communications are locked-in to their propriety apps, i.e. no data
portability. In the end, I was better off using email, which when you think
about it can be P2P (BYO domain name), secure (encryption), privacy
aware (white lists and email disclaimers), but brings with a cumbersome
interface (attachments anyone) and is a major time vampire when you want to find
something. It's also not anonymous. </FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT face=Arial
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size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR>what this project
needs is a forums for discussion, and some updates from cor devs about the
progress and direction we are going. The mailing list has become bombarded with
inexperienced users wanting to promote ideas with no developmental background.
Which is fine, but the mailing list i feel is not the correct place for such
discussion. </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>The proposed working groups will probably lead to new
mailing lists, which in essence is a basic forum. I agree
that the core devs need to provide regular updates and I look forward to
the update at Debcon. I also hope at Debcon or soon after
their is a roadmap indicating the direction of the project. Personally, I
would like to know what is FBX Foundation policy in choosing an application,
e.g. data portability, large community support, easy update between major
versions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=037182406-25072011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>- fiftyfour</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href="http://www.codelathe.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/06/what-happens-to-tonidoplug-if-codelathe-disappears/">http://www.codelathe.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/06/what-happens-to-tonidoplug-if-codelathe-disappears/</A></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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