<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>morning, the camps starts in 2 hours......</div><div><br></div><div>i cant attend, but i was looking for the streaming page and thats all i found ?</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Streams">http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Streams</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Marc</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Mark Roest wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I have a suggestion. Check out WorldVistA.org's Hardhats page, and look for the history of the Vista Electronic Health Record (VistA EHR). In the history, look at the study of why health informatics did not work, conducted by the NIH, and then at the course of the meeting convened by a leader of that study, of creative types he found on a nationwide tour of the VA hospital system. They used his model, and they divvied up the work and went off to do it -- while under assault by the centralized computer systems authority in the VA. A year and a half later it went live.<br> <br>The analogy is that if the people who go there, and anyone who can be patched in during the proceedings, choose what they will take responsibility for, and put the list(s) / diagram(s) out for the rest of the world to see, then others can pick up the unsupported tasks and do them in decentralized, asynchronous fashion. Simply stretch out and virtualize the selection and commitment to the rest of the world.<br> <br>Beyond that, if the nature of the work to be done, and the decisions to be made, can be communicated to the world ahead of time, then the conference can go forward with input on what is wanted and needed from other points of view, and probably also with commitments to do work, which can increase the flexibility accorded those who attend even more -- e.g. to spot opportunities for enhancement beyond the basic plan.<br> <br>Regards,<br><br>Mark Roest<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Dmitri DB <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmitridb@gmail.com">dmitridb@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm not really sure how. I have no way of making it to Germany to<br> attend, and I'd like to see what this talk is all about. The object is<br> as stated:<br> <div class="im"><br> "But most of all, this talk will argue that the time is here to join<br> loose initiatives and localized grass-roots telecommunication efforts<br> to implement a world-wide and independent communications network. This<br> talk will explore possibilities, challenges and perhaps the need to<br> unlearn the familiar and adapt to a new era of a truly decentralized<br> infrastructure without traditional hubs of power and controlling<br> agencies."<br> <br> </div>What does a decently disseminated recording do to get in the way of that?<br> <font color="#888888"><br> - Dmitri DB<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Melvin Carvalho<br> <<a href="mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com">melvincarvalho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > On 21 July 2011 17:53, Dmitri DB <<a href="mailto:dmitridb@gmail.com">dmitridb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> Here's to hoping someone makes a decent recording of this :)<br> ><br> > Doesn't that kind of defeat the object? :)<br> ><br> >><br> >> - Dmitri DB<br> >><br> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Venessa Miemis <<a href="mailto:venessamiemis@gmail.com">venessamiemis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >>> presale tickets end today<br> >>><br> >>> ---<br> >>><br> >>> ------- Original Message --------<br> >>> Subject: FYI - Blackout Resilient Technologies Village at CCCamp...<br> >>> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:07:17 -0400<br> >>> From: Gustaf Björksten <<a href="mailto:gustaf@accessnow.org">gustaf@accessnow.org</a>><br> >>> Reply-To: <a href="mailto:gustaf@accessnow.org">gustaf@accessnow.org</a><br> >>> Organization: Access Now<br> >>> To: Gustaf Bjorksten <<a href="mailto:gustaf@accessnow.org">gustaf@accessnow.org</a>><br> >>><br> >>> Hi all,<br> >>><br> >>> This is a call to all you hackers out there working on projects in the<br> >>> blackout resilient technology area. Come hang for five days in an<br> >>> open-air camp with a group of like-minded folks and work on bringing<br> >>> these technologies to fruition for the ongoing benefit of humanity.<br> >>> This<br> >>> hackathon will be in Finowfurt, Germany (near Berlin) from August<br> >>> 10-14,<br> >>> 2011.<br> >>><br> >>> "The Chaos Communication Camp is an international, five-day open-air<br> >>> event for hackers and associated life-forms. It provides a relaxed<br> >>> atmosphere for free exchange of technical, social, and political<br> >>> ideas.<br> >>> The Camp has everything you need: power, internet, food and fun. Bring<br> >>> your tent and participate!"<br> >>> (from <a href="http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Main_Page</a>)<br> >>><br> >>> "A village is a distinct area of the Camp that is run by a certain<br> >>> group<br> >>> or community. There is no central planning for the villages, besides<br> >>> villages with a special infrastructural need. Some villages are just a<br> >>> bunch of normal sleeping tents whose inhabitants feel a sense of<br> >>> community. Most of them have a public space to hang out together, work<br> >>> on a shared project, and present what they are doing. Many of them<br> >>> organize their own workshops or other events in which everybody can<br> >>> participate."<br> >>> (from <a href="http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Villages" target="_blank">http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Villages</a>)<br> >>><br> >>> This village is for folk working on Blackout Resilient Technologies<br> >>> such<br> >>> as infrastructure mesh networks for use when the 'normal' networking<br> >>> infrastructure is down or switched off, perhaps after a natural<br> >>> disaster<br> >>> or when a regime activates a 'kill switch' to shut off the internet or<br> >>> cellular network in an attempt to thwart the mobilization of opponents<br> >>> or activists. Think mesh networks, cell tower replacement, bridging<br> >>> communications technologies and 'internet in a briefcase' type stuff.<br> >>> This village also invites projects in areas such as censorship<br> >>> circumvention, anonymity, hacktivism, secure communications, network<br> >>> monitoring and early warning systems. Come and help build systems to<br> >>> ensure the open and free exchange of information for all peoples in<br> >>> all<br> >>> nations.<br> >>> (bookmark<br> >>> <a href="http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Blackout_Resilient_Technologies_Village" target="_blank">http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Blackout_Resilient_Technologies_Village</a><br> >>> for information updates as they come to hand)<br> >>><br> >>> If you would like to participate in the Blackout Resilient<br> >>> Technologies<br> >>> Village please contact me, and if you are attending the CCCamp in<br> >>> another village please drop by our village and introduce yourself.<br> >>><br> >>> Hope to see you there,<br> >>><br> >>> --<br> >>> Gustaf Björksten<br> >>> Technology Director<br> >>> Access<br> >>> <a href="https://www.accessnow.org" target="_blank">https://www.accessnow.org</a><br> >>> GPG ID: 0xFEB3D12A<br> >>> GPG Fingerprint: C10F FC31 B92A 3A32 40A0 1A72 43AC A427 FEB3 D12A<br> >><br> ><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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