<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For example (this is a hand-wavy sketch, not a concrete proposal):<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 0) a freedombox could be known by the fingerprint of its <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">public key (non-human-readable, OpenPGP or some other <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">fingerprinting standard)<br></blockquote>Agree. A couple of months ago I wouldn't have understood this sentence\0/<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>same with me :)</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 1) the freedombox itself could publish its own routing <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">information (DNS records? something else?), signed by its <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">own public key so that it is clear (and verifiable) how to <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reach the machine at the moment.<br></blockquote>Same as 0.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>sounds good to me.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 2) individual users could choose to publish (some of) their <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">petname bindings in a way that is cryptographically <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">verifiable, thereby creating third-party introductions with <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">human-readable names.<br></blockquote>My understanding of this sentence is that you are effectively sharing your<br>address book with a friend (third party). This sounds like a Facebook<br>Friends list, which clicking on one of those friends links takes you to an<br>unreadable url. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>remind me on....</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 17); font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Verdana, Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 255); ">The addressbook is a web-of-trust driven secure, distributed, and human readable naming system, sacrificing only the call for all human readable names to be globally unique by mandating only local uniqueness.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 17); font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Verdana, Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 255); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 17); font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Verdana, Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 255); "><a href="http://www.i2p2.de/naming.html">http://www.i2p2.de/naming.html</a></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 17); font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Verdana, Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 255); "><br></span></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>I do want to understand the problem, but I can't see the problem. What is it that I don't see?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The problem is IMHO, that most or lets say some people dont want centralised DNS , whitch would give us the ability to "register " a global hostname and prevent the problem with duplicated names.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Marc</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>-- fiftyfour <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Freedombox-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org">Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; 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