<div dir="ltr">(also appologies to all for delays in responding, I was somewhat ironically left incommunicado by a 24 hour blackout over the weekend).<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:30 PM, macbroadcast <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc@let.de" target="_blank">marc@let.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>Am 11.07.2013 23:45, schrieb Paul
      Gardner-Stephen:<br>
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        <div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.499999046325684px">The
          idea is that it uses the UHF packet radio to mesh over greater
          distances than is possible with Wi-Fi, the trade-off being
          lower bandwidth.</div>
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          general, we find that the UHF packet radio has a range of
          about 10x that of Wi-Fi when deployed indoors with
          omni-directional antennae.  This means it has a range of about
          a block in a suburban or urban setting compared with Wi-Fi's
          range of about one house or apartment.</div>
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    Awsome progress Paul , i am following your progress for some time,
    what you think about this " bug/ feature" <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weight:normal;float:none;line-height:20px;text-transform:none;font-size:14px;white-space:normal;font-family:NHG,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">However, some mesh proponents say
        Google is unnecessarily hampering their efforts because it does
        not support the device-to-device mode of Wi-Fi chips in its
        Android software (a complaint registered with Google as “</span><a href="https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82" style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:20px;color:rgb(32,111,150);text-transform:none;font-size:14px;white-space:normal;margin:0px;font-family:NHG,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:underline;border:0px;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Android bug #82</a><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weight:normal;float:none;line-height:20px;text-transform:none;font-size:14px;white-space:normal;font-family:NHG,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">”). That means
        before a device can become an active part of a mesh network, a
        user must bypass Android’s security controls, or “root” the
        device, by installing special software. Unrooted devices can use
        connectivity provided by a mesh network, but they can’t help
        expand its coverage.</span></blockquote>
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    <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516571/build-your-own-internet-with-mobile-mesh-networking/" target="_blank">http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516571/build-your-own-internet-with-mobile-mesh-networking/</a></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I am not quite sure exactly what you are asking here.  If it is "what do I think about the lack of action on bug82?" then my answer is disappointment, and that with the Mesh Extender concept we have engineered our way around it. </div>
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    Is it possible to run it  in a virualized enviroment ? i see debian
    and openwrt directorys in there.<br>
    <br>
    <a href="https://github.com/servalproject/serval-dna" target="_blank">https://github.com/servalproject/serval-dna</a></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Well, I run it on debian VMs on my laptop, so yes.</div>
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    <strong style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:left;font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;line-height:25px;color:rgb(51,51,51);text-transform:none;font-size:15px;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px"><a href="http://developer.servalproject.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=content:tech:meshms" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:underline;outline:0px" target="_blank"><strong style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:left;font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;line-height:25px;color:rgb(51,51,51);text-transform:none;font-size:15px;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px"></strong></a><strong style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:left;font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;line-height:25px;color:rgb(51,51,51);text-transform:none;font-size:15px;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px"><a href="http://developer.servalproject.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=content:tech:rhizome" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:underline;outline:0px" target="_blank"></a></strong></strong>Rhizome and MeshMS
    is very interesting too ;)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>We think so, too.  As a store-and-forward protocol, Rhizome avoids a lot of the traditional problems that mesh networks face, in particular exponentially increasing probability of packet loss over multiple hops.  Rhizome turns out to be at times annoyingly reliable in its delivery, delivering data at the first opportunity sometimes months after it was sent, in the event of networks that have been partitioned for that long.</div>
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    Good luck<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Thanks,</div><div style>Paul.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">

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