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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2014 01:49 AM, Melvin Carvalho
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 October 2014 01:29, Markus
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hello list,<br>
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So here's the story.. I have an opportunity to build 100
CubieTrucks with a nice box and a SATA drive and I would
like to call them FreedomBox - "Danube Edition", and
sell them just at the price it costs to build them. I
can present this at the upcoming Elevate festival in
Graz and the Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain
View, I have already demo'd FreedomBox at both events
(and others) several times in the past.<br>
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I'd be interested in feedback on any or all of the
following..<br>
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1. Is this a good idea? I made this webpage: <a
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href="http://projectdanube.org/freedombox/"
target="_blank">http://projectdanube.org/freedombox/</a><br>
So the message would basically be "you can get one, you
can try to use it and learn about it, but don't rely on
it".<br>
I noticed you just discussed how FreedomBox was not
ready for the next Debian stable, but I think some
people who don't know the command line would still want
one.<br>
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2. I would like to help add a few things to the box.
Most importantly, support for the Unhosted project, we
already dreamed about this <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blog.projectdanube.org/2012/06/freedombox-unhosted-pagekite-for-access-innovation-prize-2012/"
target="_blank">2 years ago</a>, and it works really
well. Another idea would be something that comes out of
the current W3C Social Web work, as well as the IndieWeb
community.<br>
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<div>Not sure how much is going to come out of the W3C work,
except some standardization of AS 2.0, opensocial etc.<br>
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<div>You may want to take a look at GOLD. It's a light
weight remote storage file server with access controlled
file access. It runs on a raspberry pi so should easily
do well on a plug computer. It's come out of tim
berners-lee's lab at MIT, so as you can expect it's 100%
standards compliant esp. with linked data platform. The
focus is on client side (what you call unhosted) apps.<br>
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href="https://github.com/linkeddata/gold">https://github.com/linkeddata/gold</a><br>
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<div>I've been using it lately and the performance is very
good, as it's written in go. I think it makes an ideal
match to freedbombox.<br>
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Yes thanks. When I think of FreedomBox+LDP, I always remember the <a
href="http://people.csail.mit.edu/emax/papers/www2012-webbox.pdf">WebBox</a>
paper. I was thinking rww.io would be a good fit, but maybe this is
better.<br>
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When you say GOLD is a "remote storage file server", do you mean it
actually speaks Michiel's remoteStorage protocol, or do you just
mean client-side/unhosted in general in this case?<br>
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<div>PS I met Michiel (from unhosted) a couple of months
ago, I think he's working on a new hosting service which
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I know a little bit about it, it's very exciting.<br>
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3. I already managed to build a working FreedomBox image
for CubieTruck, using freedom-maker and a mainline
kernel and some similar steps as with the recently added
Beaglebone support. I'll try to submit a pull request
soon. This does require a modified version of
vmdebootstrap, since on CubieTruck the bootloader must
go into a special space between the partition table and
the first partition. I think I found some information
out there by Neil Williams who is aware of this?
Basically I think vmdebootstrap should have a new
parameter that can leave this extra space empty, and
then freedom-maker can specify that parameter and
install the bootloader afterwards. For now I summarized
what I did to make it work <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/peacekeeper/freedom-maker/wiki/OS-Start"
target="_blank">here</a>.<br>
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4. I worked on setting up a PageKite service under the
domain <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://freedombox.me" target="_blank">freedombox.me</a>,
and I wrote a Perl script that integrates the PageKite
server, a DNS server, and a Redis database, to
dynamically register new DNS names and PageKite tunnels
given a "voucher code". This is all similar to how <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pagekite.me"
target="_blank">pagekite.me</a> works. So I imagine,
if you get a FreedomBox, you also get one of these
"voucher codes" and can choose a <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://something.freedombox.me" target="_blank">something.freedombox.me</a>
subdomain. Michael Pimmer ("fonfon") has been working on
a Plinth extension that can do this registration during
Plinth's first-boot phase. I described the whole setup <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/peacekeeper/freedomkite"
target="_blank">here</a>.<br>
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Thoughts? Maybe we can chat on IRC at some point
("peacekeeper").<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
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Markus<br>
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