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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2014 02:06 AM, Jonas
Smedegaard wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Quoting Markus Sabadello (2014-10-22 01:29:15)
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<pre wrap="">So the message would basically be "you can get one, you can try to use
it and learn about it, but don't rely on it".
I noticed you just discussed how FreedomBox was not ready for the next
Debian stable, but I think some people who don't know the command line
would still want one.
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You think some people who don't know the command line would want to buy
hardware to learn about it but not rely on it?
I think some people buy it but ignore the "but not rely on it" part -
because after playing with it (i.e. clicked on the web interface - they
don't know the command line) they conclude that if feels reliable enough
despite the warnings.
I think it is a bad idea to sell something that is not yet ready, to
someone who don't understand what that means: We are all so very used
to reading and ignoring disclaimers.</pre>
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Thanks Jonas, I had the same thoughts and am also worried about the
same things. <br>
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Following your argument, I believe people outside the command line /
hacker / developer communities could never use any security or
privacy related tools, because they will never be 100% ready.<br>
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I think there is value in shipping a version of FreedomBox now, a
limited number, without an intention to make money. The value would
not be to deliver immediate security or privacy, but to educate, to
promote and advance the vision, to help create a sense that there
are alternatives out there...<br>
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I'd be interested in what others on the list think. If everybody
thinks this is a bad idea, then I'm sure it is ..<br>
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Good luck with your projects,
- Jonas
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