[Fsf-Debian] [Dev] Comparison with Parabola

Bryan Baldwin bryan at katofiad.co.nz
Sun Aug 5 07:56:25 UTC 2012


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On 08/05/2012 04:55 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> I would love to do that, irrespective of what the FSF is willing
> to list or not list.

Thanks, Clint. This is the attitude that I expected to find coming
here to talk about collaboration. No one has to care what the FSF
thinks in order to care about freedom. Right now, I think I can trust
FSF to care about my freedom, but there is something a bit more noble
then that about people like yourself who care about freedom for the
sake of its own merit. I know there are a lot of Debian developers and
maintainers who feel the same way, too.

Karl called me out about that in my thread. He's right that a lot of
my discussion is very critical of Debian. But he would also be right
in saying that my criticism is more or less directed at a subset of
it, rather than the whole. Nonetheless it is a very dubious subset
begging for more then a little critical examination.

> However, the attempt to do this in 2004 failed decisively, and I
> fear that it would fail even harder now that we are all aware of
> the evils of firmware.  Additionally, I am under the impression
> that the indoctrination process (NM) trains people to tell these
> blatant lies to which you seem to object.

I described such people in another mailing list post as "lazy and
impressionable technologists trying to be trendy."
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