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On 07/05/2012 18:03, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> On Sun, 06 May 2012 14:03:34
-0700<br>
> "Bradley D. Thornton" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Bradley@NorthTech.US"><Bradley@NorthTech.US></a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> You're pontificating rant about relevance and
obsolescence from your<br>
>> own, narrow, personal perspective is ridiculous and
foolish. People</span><br>
will<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">>> continue to use the tools
that are relevant to accomplishing the tasks<br>
>> at hand, regardless of your lack of intelligent input
and useless<br>
>> negativity.<br>
><br>
> Apart from you drifting into a personal level trying to
insult</span><br>
A personal attack isn't surprising, considering the fact that you<br>
decided to insult the general community surrounding this mailing
list.<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> didn't get the point of my
post. I agree that people will always use<br>
> the tools which seem fit to the task at hand even if those
tools are<br>
> regarded as outdated by others. So the claim that gopher is
obsolete<br>
> might be questioned from that point of view.</span><br>
Your accusation that gopher is obsolete /must/ be undermined by
the<br>
fact that you are pointing out a gopher server as yours (whether
or<br>
not it is is beside the point). Would anybody use a technology
they<br>
described as "obsolete"? No, not unless a better technology
doesn't<br>
exist. Which, considering that, as far as I can tell, your entire<br>
criteria (unless some part of it that can't be inferred from your<br>
previous emails) for "obsolete" is whether or not it works on<br>
smartphones, isn't the case, since the HTMl/HTTP duo have
presented<br>
themselves.<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> But that's not the point of
my post. The point is that the OP's claim<br>
> is wrong.<br>
> That is, it's not the i item type at all why gopher has no<br>
> relevance on smart phones. And abolishing it won't help the
situation<br>
> either. It is just that gopher's heyday is long but over
and it will<br>
> probably never come back again.</span><br>
Whether or not gopher's heyday is over, it is still useful for
some<br>
things:<br>
- Quick and dirty content publishing.<br>
- Finding useful software/content/data that /isn't/ accompanied<br>
by tons of GIFs, nigh-unreadable text and badly formatted HTML<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/html-hell.html"><http://www.catb.org/~esr/html-hell.html></a><br>
(admittedly this was a bit more common in the 90s but it still<br>
exists, thanks to the likes of Angelfire, Tripod, and the (now<br>
defunct) Geocites)<br>
- The ability to host your server on your home computer with
almost no<br>
overhead<br>
- A uniform interface. No more gear-switching when you visit a<br>
different website from the one you were just<br>
on.<br>
- The fact that as long as text and images continue to be
supported on<br>
the computers of the future (and<br>
gopher clients being developed for them) people will be able to<br>
access your content (theoretically; your<br>
server probably won't last that long)<br>
- Simple protocol, so if you know a programming language and find
a<br>
platform which hasn't got a gopher<br>
client or server, you can implement one easily (or, if you want
an<br>
alternate interface (like that 3D one I<br>
forgot the name of) you can make one)<br>
<br>
P.S. to anybody who cares: feel free to publish it as "Gopher<br>
considered <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailman.html"><http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailman.html></a> beneficial<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/jwzrebuttal.html"><http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/jwzrebuttal.html></a>" or
something<br>
like that.<br>
<br>
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