I agree with you guys on this Slack thing... like, what is Slack is attacked by some hackers and then all your company data and files are stolen? How can you, the consumer of this Slack product be assured that proper security is in place on their end. We're all seeing what's happening to all these big companies like Sony and Target.<br><br>On the note about technology from 20 years ago... Who'd be up for running an old fashioned MUD with me? I'd love to recreate the original MUD experience, but I never had the chance to play those original MUDs, I was only 10 and Internet/BBS connections were only for the rich kids. The MU*'s I'm seeing/playing nowadays are mostly just people using them like an IRC chat, socializing rather than actually playing a text-based online game. Any thoughts opinions on this one? We could call it, wait for it.... GopherMUD! It doesn't HAVE to be gopher related/themed, or even be named that. I'm totally up for theme and name discussions. Although it should be in the fantasy genre, as the original MUDs were.<br><br>Matthew Holevinski <eylusion@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><a href="http://www.programmableweb.com/api/slack">http://www.programmableweb.com/api/slack</a><br><br></div>Ya I'm with Kim, I too basically hate everything invented in the last 20 years, that slack thing looks ridiculous.<br></div><div>It seems to me everything since the dawn of the technological revolution has been nothing but a drain on resources, ripe with inefficiencies, and dedicated towards a complete awe-inspiring lack of productivity. For those of you in sysadmin jobs, looking at how much worthless email your employee's send to one another can probably vouch for that last statement. What happened to smoking in your office, sending faxes, making phone calls and banging secretaries with a glass of scotch in your hand, THAT'S how work got done.<br> <br></div>Matt<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Kim Holviala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kim@holviala.com" target="_blank">kim@holviala.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Well, I provide normal .tar.gz downloads in both gopher and http. The only reason I have a git repo is because someone asked for it nicely (I don’t use git). And no, I didn’t know what “hg” was, and yep, I’m the old fat bearded guy who dislikes anything invented during the last 20 years.</div><div><br></div><div>My current hatred #1? Slack. What the fuck is it? Their homepage doesn’t say anything except some marketing bullshit, and both of the companies I work for apparently want to use it. I think it’s some chat / file upload service which is TOTALLY RAD NEW THING because we’ve never had those before, and I’msure the security guys will love it when I tell them that using Slack means giving all of the company secrets AND files to a random U.S. based company (I’m in EU with different set of laws) and Amazon because I doubt Slack owns their own servers.</div><div><br></div><div>Phew. Back to beer. If anyone else is at Frankfurt airport, come to Hausmann’s in terminal A and I’ll buy you a beer. </div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>- Kim</div><div><br></div><br></font></span><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 18 Dec 2014, at 17:46, Matt Lewandowsky <<a href="mailto:matt@greenviolet.net" target="_blank">matt@greenviolet.net</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">You'll get more downloads and people looking at Gophernicus if you don't force everyone to install some app called "git". What is it, anyway? It has an offensive name. ;)</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In seriousness, hg is Mercurial, also known as "the other DVCS besides git". (Bitbucket, by Atlassian, for instance, supports both git and hg repos.) It's used by companies like Facebook and Mozilla for their fairly sizeable codebases, as well as open source projects such as Python, wget, nginx, and OpenJDK. It’s not exactly a no-name binary that no one knows, basically. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">If you're afraid of learning something new, you can use git-hg or git-remote-hg to interact with hg repositories (the reverse direction also works well, btw).</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">No need to criticize someone for using common tools that you don't happen to use yourself though. :)</div> <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br name="BB10"></div> <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Matt<br><br>-- <br>Matt Lewandowsky<br>Big Geek<br>Greenviolet<br><a href="mailto:matt@greenviolet.net" target="_blank">matt@greenviolet.net</a> <a href="http://www.greenviolet.net" target="_blank">http://www.greenviolet.net</a><br><a href="tel:%2B1%20415%20578%205782" value="+14155785782" target="_blank">+1 415 578 5782</a> (US) <a href="tel:%2B44%20844%20484%208254" value="+448444848254" target="_blank">+44 844 484 8254</a> (UK)<br>Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</div> <table style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt"> <div><b>From: </b>Kim Holviala</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 18, 2014 08:23</div><div><b>To: </b>Gopher Project Discussion</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>Gopher Project Discussion</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gopher] cgod - a new prototype gopher daemon</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Dec 2014, at 14:56, James Mills <<a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" target="_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>$ hg clone <a href="https://bitbucket.org/prologic/cgod" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/prologic/cgod</a></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>You’ll get more downloads and people looking at your code if you don’t force everyone to install some app called “hg”. 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