<font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">>It is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet connection SMS costs very </span></font><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">>much today, especially SMS to a foreign country. I think your project with SMS is late for at least 10 years.</span></font><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Haha, the irony of anyone here chiding a gopher project as being "late".</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Anyway, the critique is off. There are plenty of places and people without ANY direct internet access, yet some SMS. Amazingly, most of the world is not on Faceborg 24/7 with urban infrastructure and smart phones...</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Rah rah for the SMS idea. I'd use it, if only for the occasional Gopherpedia query from the boonies...</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.301961);">Brighid<br></span></font><br>On Saturday, 23 January 2016, <<a href="mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org">gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Gopher-Project mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: Matthew Holevinski <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'eylusion@gmail.com')">eylusion@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I second the aprs idea.<br>
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Matt<br>
On Jan 22, 2016 6:07 PM, "???" <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'wubaixue@gmail.com')">wubaixue@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Mr. Kevin,<br>
><br>
> I left a message, which has been somewhat humourously transcribed by<br>
> machine. Pretty nifty project! However, it doesn't seem to have made an<br>
> MP3 copy of my call, or at least hasn't posted it to folder. FYI.<br>
><br>
> I heartily appreciate and encourage your happy work in this direction. If<br>
> you ever get your SMS app working, please consider also allowing it to<br>
> accept APRS packets ported direct from APRS-IS gateways. Such would be<br>
> nifty doodle for us hams.<br>
><br>
> Toodloo,<br>
> Brighid<br>
><br>
> On Friday, 22 January 2016, <<br>
> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org')">gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>  1. Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)<br>
>>Â Â 2. Re:Â Gopher 2.0? (Kevin Veroneau)<br>
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>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:26:00 -0700<br>
>> From: Kevin Veroneau <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kevin@veroneau.net')">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
>> To: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')">gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
>> Subject: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', '201601212326.00383.kevin@veroneau.net')">201601212326.00383.kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;Â charset="us-ascii"<br>
>><br>
>> Hello everybody!<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which would have suited<br>
>> gopher<br>
>> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with gopher!<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on gopher space, I<br>
>> now<br>
>> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway interface!<br>
>> Now,<br>
>> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcription<br>
>> services.<br>
>> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, my<br>
>> server<br>
>> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using voice to<br>
>> record your guestbook posting. This guestbook posting is then saved<br>
>> directly<br>
>> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into text for<br>
>> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your transcribed<br>
>> text.<br>
>><br>
>>  Now, you might be asking yourself... Does this require some sort of<br>
>> fancy<br>
>> new modern gopher client? Nope, not at all. This proof-of-concept<br>
>> technology<br>
>> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program. So,<br>
>> this<br>
>> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from today to<br>
>> back in<br>
>> the 70s.<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher type 7 to submit<br>
>> the<br>
>> phone number you wish gopher to call you at. The mole will then use some<br>
>> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you<br>
>> provided, it<br>
>> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid working<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number using various carrier APIs. Then seconds from submitting your<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message will play<br>
>> back<br>
>> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone. Then you can<br>
>> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen. The recording should<br>
>> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcription<br>
>> can<br>
>> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message.<br>
>><br>
>> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet publically<br>
>> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:<br>
>> gopher://<a href="http://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2" target="_blank">gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2</a><br>
>><br>
>>Â Â My next goal is to enable this same functionality using SMS messages,<br>
>> but<br>
>> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where they are and if<br>
>> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can<br>
>> text<br>
>> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any mobile<br>
>> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that is.<br>
>> You<br>
>> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech<br>
>> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, or displayed on<br>
>> this<br>
>> guestbook. So go ahead and show off this rather unique guestbook<br>
>> experience to<br>
>> friends and family. It's sure to put a smile on their face.<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>>Â Â Kevin Veroneau<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> Message: 2<br>
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:05:49 -0700<br>
>> From: Kevin Veroneau <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kevin@veroneau.net')">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br>
>> To: Gopher Project Discussion <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')">gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>> Message-ID:<br>
>>Â Â Â Â Â <<br>
>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'mailman.215.1453464049.18817.gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')">mailman.215.1453464049.18817.gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>
>><br>
>> Quick note on this. ?Although I do hope that we are all mature adults in<br>
>> gopherspace, I am hoping that nobody goes and abuses this to make, let's<br>
>> say "prank calls" to numbers which aren't your own... ?any number put into<br>
>> the search box will be called by the server, there's really no way to know<br>
>> if it's your real number or someone else's. ?Do not use this service for<br>
>> solicitation. ?Nobody likes spam, and especially random phone numbers<br>
>> calling them asking them to record a guest book post.<br>
>><br>
>> ? In version 2.1 I will implement a rate limiter based on IP address to<br>
>> prevent potential abuse when it goes more public. ?Thankfully not many bots<br>
>> frequent gopherholes, and from my gopher server logs and prior guestbook, I<br>
>> don't see bots spamming our gopher type 7s thankfully, so hopefully I can<br>
>> keep this proof of concept alive for years to come for many people to try<br>
>> out. ?Anyways, I do hope everyone enjoys this rather interesting project I<br>
>> put together. ?Look forward to both hearing your guestbook messages and<br>
>> reading what is transcribed. ?This also gives us an interesting way to<br>
>> share our real voices with others in gopherspace. :). I still think I'm the<br>
>> youngest gopher user here, but let's see.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Original Message ?<br>
>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'From:kevin@veroneau.net')">From:kevin@veroneau.net</a><br>
>> Sent:January 22, 2016 12:25 AM<br>
>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org')">To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
>> Subject:[gopher] Gopher 2.0?<br>
>><br>
>> Hello everybody!<br>
>><br>
>> ? I have developed a new kind of gopher mole, which would have suited<br>
>> gopher<br>
>> back when it was popular, as it pairs telephony technology with gopher!<br>
>><br>
>> ? Get ready to jump into a gopher hole like no other on gopher space, I<br>
>> now<br>
>> proudly present the world's first gopher-to-telephony gateway interface!?<br>
>> Now,<br>
>> you can fill in gopher forms using the latest in voice transcription<br>
>> services.?<br>
>> Yes, you heard me right, with this new one of a kind gopher mole, my<br>
>> server<br>
>> will call any phone number you give it and request of you using voice to<br>
>> record your guestbook posting.? This guestbook posting is then saved<br>
>> directly<br>
>> on the server as a convenient MP3 file and then transcripted into text for<br>
>> future visitors can both hear your lovely voice and read your transcribed<br>
>> text.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Now, you might be asking yourself...? Does this require some sort of<br>
>> fancy<br>
>> new modern gopher client?? Nope, not at all.? This proof-of-concept<br>
>> technology<br>
>> even works by using your PCs tried and true telnet command program.? So,<br>
>> this<br>
>> gopher mole will work in everything in the gopher market from today to<br>
>> back in<br>
>> the 70s.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Upon visiting the mole, you just use a standard gopher type 7 to submit<br>
>> the<br>
>> phone number you wish gopher to call you at.? The mole will then use some<br>
>> telephony magic to make an outbound call to any phone number you<br>
>> provided, it<br>
>> will even do a quick check to make sure you entered in a valid working<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number using various carrier APIs.? Then seconds from submitting your<br>
>> phone<br>
>> number, your phone will magically ring and an automated message will play<br>
>> back<br>
>> asking you to record your guestbook message after the tone.? Then you can<br>
>> simply hang up the phone and watch the magic happen.? The recording should<br>
>> appear about 5 seconds after the phone is hung up, and the transcription<br>
>> can<br>
>> take as long as 2 minutes, depending on the length of your message.<br>
>><br>
>> You can try it out here, currently the gopher hole isn't yet publically<br>
>> available, as I wanted to you lovely a sneak peek:<br>
>> gopher://<a href="http://gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2" target="_blank">gopher.veroneau.net/1apps/guestbook2</a><br>
>><br>
>> ? My next goal is to enable this same functionality using SMS messages,<br>
>> but<br>
>> that could incur charges on the users' end depending where they are and if<br>
>> they are charged for long distance SMS messages.<br>
>><br>
>> ? Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can<br>
>> text<br>
>> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any mobile<br>
>> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that is.?<br>
>> You<br>
>> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech<br>
>> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
>><br>
>> ? For privacy reasons, your phone number is not stored, or displayed on<br>
>> this<br>
>> guestbook.? So go ahead and show off this rather unique guestbook<br>
>> experience to<br>
>> friends and family.? It's sure to put a smile on their face.<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> ? Kevin Veroneau<br>
>><br>
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> Finally, I plan on making a complete sms2gopher gateway, where you can text<br>
> a number a valid gopher URI, and browse gopher from absolutely any mobile<br>
> device in the entire known universe, as long as it supports SMS that is. You<br>
> will even be-able to instruct it to call you with a full text-to-speech<br>
> recording of an entire gopher document!<br>
<br>
It is an ambitious plan but rather useless. Comparing to the Internet connection SMS costs very much today, especially SMS to a foreign country. I think your project with SMS is late for at least 10 years.<br>
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