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Is electron a library akin to the QT you are currently using? Gtk would be super sweet, just saying... I do not want to have to install a large portion of KDE to run a gopher client. I do applaud the notion of supporting TLS. There a quite a few things that have become standard in the past when someone took the initiative to Just Do It (TM) in the absence of consensus. Thank you Kim and James <br /><br />
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<br />Leveck<br /><br />17. Sep 2017 01:33 by <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Oh nice! I'll make <a href="https://github.com/prologic/go-gopher" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/prologic/go-gopher</a> support this! That also means <a href="https://github.com/prologic/gopherproxy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/prologic/gopherproxy</a> and <a href="https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient</a> (which I want to port to Electron)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div><div class="gmail_signature"><span style="border-collapse: collapse ; color: rgb( 136 , 136 , 136 ) ; font-size: 13px"><br /><font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br /><br /><font face="arial, sans-serif"></font>E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style="color: rgb( 0 , 0 , 204 )" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></span><div><span style="font-family: "courier new" , monospace ; color: rgb( 136 , 136 , 136 ) ; font-size: 13px">W: </span><a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style="font-family: "courier new" , monospace ; font-size: 13px ; color: rgb( 0 , 0 , 204 )" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br /></div></div></div>
<br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Kim Holviala <<a href="mailto:kim@holviala.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">kim@holviala.com</a>> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex ; border-left: 1px #ccc solid ; padding-left: 1ex"><div style="word-wrap: break-word"><div>We didn't decide... so I just did straight up gopher-over-TLS (no STARTLS though) running on randomly chosen port 7070. And as far as I know there are no clients which would support the gophers// protocol.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>- Kim</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><br /><div><blockquote class="thunderbird_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93a3b8 ; padding-left: 10px ; margin-left: 5px"><div>On 17 Sep 2017, at 03:59, James Mills <<a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_2237189727366068664Apple-interchange-newline" /><div><div>Wait.... There are gopher TLS holes? Did we decide on how this works already?<div><br /></div><div>cheers</div><div>James</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div><div class="m_2237189727366068664gmail_signature"><span style="border-collapse: collapse ; color: rgb( 136 , 136 , 136 ) ; font-size: 13px"><br /><font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br /><br /><font face="arial, sans-serif"></font>E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style="color: rgb( 0 , 0 , 204 )" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></span><div><span style="font-family: "courier new" , monospace ; color: rgb( 136 , 136 , 136 ) ; font-size: 13px">W: </span><a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/" style="font-family: "courier new" , monospace ; font-size: 13px ; color: rgb( 0 , 0 , 204 )" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br /></div></div></div>
<br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mr. Leveck <<a href="mailto:leveck@leveck.us" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">leveck@leveck.us</a>> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex ; border-left: 1px #ccc solid ; padding-left: 1ex">
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Out of curiosity what clients properly handle gophers:// ?<br /><br />I will have some spare time coming up next week... looks like I will be getting a cert. Maybe <a href="http://gopher.leveck.us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">gopher.leveck.us</a> (yeah, all my subdomains point to the same DSL router) will be the second TLS gopher site.<span class="m_2237189727366068664HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br />
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<br />Leveck<br /><br />16. Sep 2017 10:15 by <a href="mailto:kim@holviala.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">kim@holviala.com</a>:</font></span><div><div class="m_2237189727366068664h5"><br /><br /><blockquote class="m_2237189727366068664m_4491657073125482669tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93a3b8 ; padding-left: 10px ; margin-left: 5px"><div>Not even going offtopic since Gophernicus - The Most Awesome(tm) gopher server \o/ - actually supports TLS and the only existing TLS-enabled gopher server (gophers://<a href="http://gophernicus.org:7070/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">gophernicus.org:7070/</a>) runs on a free Let's Encrypt certificate.</div><div><br /></div><div>I was really against the whole thing until start of this year when my existing certs were due to renewal. So being slightly autistic I wrote down the steps to renew a cert between the traditional way vs. up and coming Let's Encrypt that I hated. </div><div><br /></div><div>That was not even a competition... and yes, it's fully scritable - I've got a simple bash script running form /etc/cron.monthly/ to renew the cert every two months (they're valid for three). As long as Let's Encrypt is operational I never ever have to do anything to renew. Nada.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>- Kim</div><div><br /></div><br /><div><blockquote class="m_2237189727366068664m_4491657073125482669thunderbird_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93a3b8 ; padding-left: 10px ; margin-left: 5px"><div>On 16 Sep 2017, at 19:08, Mr. Leveck <<a href="mailto:leveck@leveck.us" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">leveck@leveck.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_2237189727366068664m_4491657073125482669Apple-interchange-newline" /><div>
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I have looked at Let's Encrypt in the past. There is quite a bit of smack talk floating around vis-a-vis this service particularly because it is free. Every single free cert I have seen in the last 20 years eventually shut down due to misuse by idiots. I guess I'll grab one while it is still around...<br /><br />Is renewing the LE cert scriptable or is this just something that will need a calendar entry and a reminder?<br /><br />
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<br />Leveck<br /><br />16. Sep 2017 02:38 by <a href="mailto:irl@fsfe.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">irl@fsfe.org</a>:<br /><br /><blockquote class="m_2237189727366068664m_4491657073125482669tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93a3b8 ; padding-left: 10px ; margin-left: 5px">Hi,<br /><br />On 16/09/17 05:47, Stephen Kellat wrote:<blockquote>RFC 4217 comes to mind at this point & I wonder if <a href="http://letsencrypt.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">letsencrypt.org</a> supports that perchance.</blockquote><br />By putting some records into the DNS, yes it is possible to have a cert<br />issued for a domain name that will then work for any service, including<br />FTPS or even some form of Gopher/TLS if such a thing exists.<br /><br />Personally I've used the certs for mail servers, FTP servers, XMPP<br />servers as well as many many web servers.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Iain.<br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />Gopher-Project mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br /><a href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project</a></blockquote> </div>
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