Hi Michal<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/5 Michal Soltys <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:soltys@ziu.info" target="_blank">soltys@ziu.info</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 2012-10-04 22:59, Arnaud Quette wrote:<br>
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2012/10/4 Kris Jordan <<a href="mailto:nut.kj@sagebrushnetworks.com" target="_blank">nut.kj@sagebrushnetworks.com</a><br>
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Arnaud Quette wrote, On 10/4/2012 9:26 AM:<br>
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2012/10/4 Manuel Wolfshant <<a href="mailto:wolfy@nobugconsulting.ro" target="_blank">wolfy@nobugconsulting.ro</a><br>
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On 10/04/2012 05:55 PM, Arnaud Quette wrote:<br>
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Also note that this unit is supported through USB, but<br>
recent<br>
SmartUPS (for ~ 3 years) use a new serial protocol, called<br>
microlink, which is not supported in NUT (nor in any other<br>
opensource solution).<br>
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Is that true for the SmartUPS 1000 VA (<br></div>
<a href="http://www.apc.com/resource/__include/techspec_index.cfm?__base_sku=sua1000i" target="_blank">http://www.apc.com/resource/__<u></u>include/techspec_index.cfm?__<u></u>base_sku=sua1000i</a><div class="im">
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<<a href="http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=sua1000i" target="_blank">http://www.apc.com/resource/<u></u>include/techspec_index.cfm?<u></u>base_sku=sua1000i</a>><br>
) ? I plan to buy one next week and if it's not supported<br>
by nut (<br>
or apcupsd in case of emergency ) I'll go shopping<br>
something else<br>
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AFAICT, "newer" (since ~3 years) APC unit using the microlink<br>
for serial communication are not supported anywhere.<br>
Binary protocol, not documented, nor reverse engineered (yet).<br>
Some readings:<br></div>
<a href="http://forums.isxusergroups." target="_blank">http://forums.isxusergroups.</a>__<u></u>com/thread.jspa?messageID=__<u></u>29863<div><div class="h5"><br>
<<a href="http://forums.isxusergroups.com/thread.jspa?messageID=29863" target="_blank">http://forums.isxusergroups.<u></u>com/thread.jspa?messageID=<u></u>29863</a>><br>
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Another reading (search for "Do Not Purchase The Following UPSes"):<br>
<a href="http://www.apcupsd.com/" target="_blank">http://www.apcupsd.com/</a><br>
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Apcupsd works with microlink UPS's, but only the most basic status<br>
info is provided. It's not the microlink protocol it's working with,<br>
but some other basic communication mode those UPS's provide. You can<br>
get full info back by purchasing the legacy communications card.<br>
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I'm not an APC expert, so there might be slight nuances or updates that<br>
I'm not aware of.<br>
as told, AFAICT any units that use microlink *doesn't* work with serial<br>
driver.<br>
but as also told on Apcupsd webpage, USB works (basically) and expansion<br>
cards are another option.<br>
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what is part of the nuances is the declination of SmartUPS units:<br>
SMX/SMT, RT XL are the only one mentioned.<br>
are there other SmartUPS models that either use microlink but provides a<br>
minimal set of data, or units still using the old protocol?<br>
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anyone that can help clarifying this, preferably with a wrap-up, is very<br>
welcome to do so!<br>
here is the current situation:<br>
<a href="http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=APC" target="_blank">http://www.networkupstools.<u></u>org/stable-hcl.html?<u></u>manufacturer=APC</a><br>
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and if anyone can provide microlink snoops for analysis, I would be<br>
pleased to take a look at it.<br>
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Does NUT not work in a similar way with these UPS's?<br>
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I'll delegate the right answer to Michal. Mine would be "very likely"...<br>
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AFAIK, SUA should be fully supported. Even at APC's site there's an overpriced smart cable as an option for that particular model ;) Though I'm a bit surprised that ups model is still listed there (as available, in Romania). Recollecting from older threads on apc forums or mails on apcupsd list, I think there was someone complaining that he couldn't buy SUA models anymore and was offered SMT as a replacement.<br>
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For SMT, SMX, RTD models the only (serial) option of talking to nut or apcupsd through smart protocol is:<br>
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<a href="http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP9620" target="_blank">http://www.apc.com/products/<u></u>resource/include/techspec_<u></u>index.cfm?base_sku=AP9620</a><br>
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You can easily distinguish new models by having rj45 instead of serial.<br>
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Before/if you decide to purchase it, doublecheck everything.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>I've checked the manpage, and it already includes this info.<br>can you please make a patch for data/driver.list , mentioning these info?<br>ideally, the driver.list should be something like:<br>
<br>"APC" "ups" "1" "Smart-UPS SMT" "newer models (with RJ45), require AP9620 serial card" "apcsmart"<br clear="all"><br>... same for SMX and RTD<br>
<br>thanks,<br>Arnaud<br>-- <br>Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - <a href="http://www.networkupstools.org" target="_blank">http://www.networkupstools.org</a><br>Debian Developer - <a href="http://www.debian.org" target="_blank">http://www.debian.org</a><br>
Free Software Developer - <a href="http://arnaud.quette.fr" target="_blank">http://arnaud.quette.fr</a><br><br>