debian clisp package
sds at gnu.org
Tue Nov 4 17:49:52 UTC 2008
Luca Capello wrote:
> I should apologize for being late: I planned to reply to your mail in
> the next days and providing patches. Unfortunately, I was then caught
> by other work, both for my real life and for Debian.
that's ok, as long as you actually reply...
> BTW, I read the pkg-common-lisp mailing list on a regular basis, so you
> do not need to cc: me.
I don't think my mails there are accepted.
(do I have to be subscribed? if yes, can I disable delivery and read it on gmane?)
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:50:39 +0200, Sam Steingold wrote:
>> 1. README.Debian says "In order to use the "disassemble" function you
>> must install gdb". this is NOT true. gdb is only necessary to
>> disassemble functions written in C, e.g., car. functions written in
>> lisp and compiled to byte code can be disassembled without gdb.
> Something like the following patch?
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> diff --git a/debian/README.Debian b/debian/README.Debian
> index 999fd48..b4ea3e7 100644
> --- a/debian/README.Debian
> +++ b/debian/README.Debian
> @@ -16,5 +16,6 @@ system calls to be made from clisp (e.g. resolve-host-ipaddr).
> - In order to use the "disassemble" function you must install gdb.
> + In order to use the "disassemble" function written in C you must
> +install gdb. Any other function written in Common Lisp and compiled
> +to bytecode can be disassembled without gdb.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
In order to use the "disassemble" function on functions written in C
you must install gdb. Any other function (written in Common Lisp and
compiled to bytecode) can be disassembled without gdb.
>> A. clisp-link is rarely invoked by the user at the command line,
>> usually it is used from Makefiles.
> While I agree on this, I also know that people tend to not follow
> upstream recommendation and documentation. And in my experience, the
> first thing I do when I try a new program is to test the --help|-h
> options and `man program` ;-)
yes, clisp-link --help should point to the impnotes.
>> B. clisp-link is already fully documented in the impnotes.
> Debian ships the impnotes as part of the clisp-doc package, which means
> that in most of the case the impnotes will not be available together
> with the clisp-link executable.
"web is the computer" :-)
> My idea was to provide the basic notions, i.e. the same thing we can
> discover if you read the source. Maybe should I add a note in the
> manpage to direct the user to the full documentation in the impnotes?
>> 3. clisp-dev appears to depend on gcc 4.1 (at least when I try to
>> install clisp-dev on ubuntu, it wants to install gcc 4.1 in addition
>> to the standard gcc 4.2, see
> It seems that the version you tried is an old one, since the one in
> Debian does not depend on any gcc version (both clisp and clisp-dev
> packages), at least from version 1:2.43-1.
>> this is eminently wrong. even if clisp itself is compiled with gcc
>> 4.1, it can link with modules compiled with gcc 4.2, so there is no
>> reason for clisp-dev to pull gcc 4.1 (the same for bison, xutils,
>> groff &c &c).
> This could be a problem for Debian: if we build clisp with a specific
> gcc version, then we should depend on that version, since different gcc
> versions can be installed at the same time.
Package: clisp-dev (1:2.44.1-4.1 and others)
it depends on a whole lot of stuff.
the __ONLY__ true dependencies are clisp & a C compiler (not necessarily gcc).
the rest is FAKE.
clisp-dev does NOT require bison/debhelper/groff/gettext/xutils.
You might think that libffcall1-dev & libsigsegv-dev might be required, but
they are NOT, they are already pre-linked (statically) into lisp.a.
readline-dev x11-dev et al are required only for building images on top of the
full linking set, not on top of the base linking set, so they are at most
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