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<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">Dear Yaroslav,</span></font><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks very much for your quick reply! Now all the problem solved. </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">I actually tried "python file.py" way to execute the file before but the terminal was in the python mode (i.e., the terminal has become a python </span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">interpreter</span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">), so I failed. Once I quit the python in the terminal, python file.py worked! And the output message appears in the terminal window.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Regarding the "Could not save file" problem, I think it is a specific to gedit. I tried the same thing using GVim Text Editor or PsychoPy2 Coder (IDE) and no problem at all.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">I am sure I will have more questions to bother you in the future, but as more and more problem solved, I am starting to like the system :-)</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Thanks again,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Meng<br></span></font><br><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; "></div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:08:53 -0500</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> From: debian@onerussian.com</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> To: pkg-exppsy-pymvpa@lists.alioth.debian.org</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Subject: Re: [pymvpa] problems with running python scripts in terminal: IndentationError and No output</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Hi Meng,</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> glad to see that NeuroDebian VM resolved your issues with software</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> installations. now indeed it would have been great if we had some basic</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> tutorial for newcommers on how to use Debian Linux -- we have plans for</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> those but unfortunately lack of time.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> May be someone could help us out with them -- we would be grateful.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Back to your specific questions:</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> 1. running python script, I didn't even know drag/drop way...</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> easiest -- just call it with python, i.e. in terminal type</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> python file.py</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> on how to "create" file.py -- the "problem" with linux is a</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> variety, there is tons of nice editors and IDE environments to be used</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> with Python. E.g. I use emacs + python-mode, then I just have my</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Python in an emacs subwindow and type Ctrl-C C to get it executed</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Some people use ipython directly and just call %edit file.py to</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> modify/run the script</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> some people use advanced IDEs creatde for or tailored toward Python:</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> eclipse + pydev, pida, brian, etc</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> psychopy guy has his own minimalistic IDE primarily for Psychopy's</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Python scripts, but you could edit/execute any other there as well</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> needless to say that all those are available for you in NeuroDebian VM</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> 2. just run python scripts in something with persistent window for</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> output -- terminal directly, or some IDE which maintains "Output window"</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> 3. not sure what was your problem with saving... may be you tried to</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> save to the path where you have no permission for writing?</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> hope this helps</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Meng Liang wrote:</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > The second problem is about the example start-easy.py script. When I ran</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > this script, whatever option I chose ('Run in Terminal' or 'Run'), it gave</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > me nothing - it looks like the program was run but no output was given (or</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > maybe the new pop-up terminal window immediately closed after the program</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > was run so that I couldn't see any output even if there was any?). But if</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > I type the commands one by one into the terminal, everything is fine and</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > after the 'print' command, the output message appeared in the terminal.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > How to solve this problem?</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > The third problem is about saving a py file. It should be a basic linux</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > question but I couldn't find a proper answer on the internet. I created a</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > new file named "test.py" and double clicked it. gedit automatically</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > lauched and opened the empty file. I wrote some python commands in the</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > file and click 'save'. But I got an error "Could not save the file...".</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > What did I do wrong?</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > Sorry for all these (probably very naive) questions and thanks very much</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > for your time!</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > Meng</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > _______________________________________________</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > Pkg-ExpPsy-PyMVPA mailing list</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > Pkg-ExpPsy-PyMVPA@lists.alioth.debian.org</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exppsy-pymvpa</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> -- </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> .-.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> =------------------------------ /v\ ----------------------------=</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Keep in touch // \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Linux User ^^-^^ [175555]</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> _______________________________________________</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Pkg-ExpPsy-PyMVPA mailing list</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Pkg-ExpPsy-PyMVPA@lists.alioth.debian.org</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exppsy-pymvpa</span></font><br></div> </body>
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