Bug#586291: wesnoth-1.8: Please rename to wesnoth and remove older versions

Gerfried Fuchs rhonda at deb.at
Fri Jun 18 10:00:24 UTC 2010


	Hi again!

* Andreas Tille <andreas at an3as.eu> [2010-06-18 11:40:12 CEST]:
> I reported a bug as a user of Debian and specifically wesnoth and the
> problem I detected was that I was failing in realising that Debian has
> packages for never versions but no smooth upgrade path.  This
> information belongs to the BTS and the fact that you have a promise for
> your solution does not solve this bug report.

 This implies somehow that you think I call this bugreport solved -
which I didn't, otherwise I would have sent a mail to -done. Let me
assure you that this bugreport will get closed with an upload that
contains the meta packages and a smooth upgrade experience.

> Up to now I was not aware of the fact that a user needs to have some
> specific features as you are requesting above to be able to report a
> problem.

 ?!  I totally lack to understand what you want to state here, or what
you mean by it. Where was I requesting what exactly to be able to report
a problem? Come again - I stated clear right from the start, as can be
read in my blog post, that the work isn't finished yet and that the
unversioned meta packages are still lacking. This is the reason why this
bugreport is still open and won't get closed before that happens.

> I have drawn the line further by proposing a solution for the problem -
> I did not called it patch and considering your answer this would not
> have been accepted.  BTW, I see no need to question the qualification
> for certain opinions of fellow DDs.

 That's fine, but calling the effort of others that are done on a clear
base and through several deeper discussions with both upstream team and
user base (and also third party packagers like the getdeb and itwesnoth
forks) "unneeded and over-engineerd" puts the "question the
qualification for certain opinions" on your agenda, not mine. I outlined
the reasoning behind it - if you want to convince me otherwise then
please do so with reasoning, not accusion.

> >  I do not think that I anywhere mentioned that it is actually planed to
> > release two different versions in stable Debian. We didn't and we don't
> > plan to.
> 
> So why are you making so much fuzz about my bug report instead of
> just answering this way?

 Because it wasn't me who started the fuzz but I only reported to your
making fuzz of it without thinking that that would be the actual plan?
Like written, I nowhere mentioned that it is planned to release two
different versions in stable - you were the one to imply that and throw
around accusions and call out for the release team and security team and
whats not.

 A side note about the security team: The past wesnoth DSAs show a clear
picture that the effort of the security team with respect to wesnoth
were next to not existing, because

a.) the issues popped up at me before the security team were even aware
of the issues because of my close integration with the upstream
developers,
b.) the packages were prepared and coordinated by myself, too

 So let me assure you that I am very well on the agenda with my
packages.

 Thanks,
Rhonda
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