Bug#268222: gdesklets does not start properly

Sebastien Bacher Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org>, 268222@bugs.debian.org
Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:50:23 +0200


severity 268222 important
reopen 268222
title 268222 should interact with the user on the first run
thanks

Le vendredi 27 ao=FBt 2004 =E0 04:13 +0200, Andreas Neudecker a =E9crit :

>=20
> I strongly disagree: The program has a start icon in the GNOME menu.=20
> Nowhere does it say it is just a deamon (and how should a user guess?).
> This is a totally unexpected behaviour for a program you start via the=20
> GNOME menu (which is a reason why I did not even think about docs).

I agree on this, gdesklets is not user friendly and should probably not
be in the menu, but still not a "critical" bug ... =20


> Expected behaviour in such a case would be that the program offers some=20
> explanation like a dialogue explaining the situation and offering to=20
> open the folder with the available plugins. Or, better yet, display a=20
> dialogue to select plugins from a list. Or how about an addition to the=20
> context menu in the window manager, so you can a "Add gdesklet plugin=20
> ..." there?

I've already talked about this with upstreams. I'd like to get a
druid/window in the first try and perhaps a default desklet on the
desktop too.


> Where do I find these ".display" files? "man gdesklets" doesn't tell me=20
> this, so I had to search for them in /usr. Not really the expected thing=20
> for a GUI program.

gdesklets doesn't provide some .display. gdesklets-data does, and as for
all the debian packages the doc is in /usr/share/doc/gdesklets-data


> It is still my opinion that for the average desktop user (DO NOT read as=20
> 'beginner' or 'dumbass') this is totally unexpected behaviour and the=20
> user gets the impression the program crashes while starting.

No, according to most of the problems and bug reports the average user
thinks that the probably is not working or frozen, but doesn't crash (no
segfault, no come back to the prompt).


> In the name of usability something should be changed here so I suggest=20
> you reopen this bug. The documentation should be clarified and the user=20
> should get some information when he/she first invokes gdesklets. Thanks.

Sorry but this bug is not critical. I'm changing the severity to
important and retitle it. The documentation is here and pretty clear
(what do you want to clarify in it ?) but I agree than severe progresses
should be done to get user friendly. BTW a desklets graphical manager is
in development, hopefully the next releases will be better on this plan.


Cheers,

Sebastien Bacher