Bug#289899: marked as done (gnome-applet: mixer-applet does recognise local devices only, cannot be used with a xterminal)

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Subject: gnome-applet: mixer-applet does recognise local devices only,
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Package: gnome-applets
Version: 2.8.2-1
Severity: normal
File: gnome-applet

The mixer applet does recognise local devices  only.
When used in a applicationserver/ xterminal environment the mixer-applet
cannot control the sound device, because the sound device is located on a
remote (xterminal) system. This is a similar to the X Windows configuration, where a application does send its outout to a server. 

Splitting up  the mixer-applet in a server and client part will solve
the problem.

I do classify this as bug and not a wish, because the X Windows System is working in this server client way since the early beginning. Running xterminals with application servers has been a long standing tradition among unix systems. 

The mixer applet violates this basic understanding since it does not take
into account the usage in xterminal environments which renders part of
the gnome destop (sound ) unusable.






- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.9
Locale: LANG=de_DE@euro, LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro (charmap=ISO-8859-15)

Versions of packages gnome-applets depends on:
ii  gnome-applets-data       2.8.2-1         Various applets for GNOME 2 panel 
ii  gnome-panel              2.8.2-1         Launcher and docking facility for 
ii  gstreamer0.8-alsa [gstre 0.8.7-2         ALSA plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.8-artsd [gstr 0.8.7-2         aRtsd plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.8-esd [gstrea 0.8.7-2         Enlightened Sound Daemon plugin fo
ii  gstreamer0.8-jack [gstre 0.8.7-2         JACK plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.8-oss [gstrea 0.8.7-2         OSS plugin for GStreamer
ii  libapm1                  3.2.2-2         Library for interacting with APM d
ii  libart-2.0-2             2.3.16-6        Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libatk1.0-0              1.8.0-4         The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbonobo2-0             2.8.0-4         Bonobo CORBA interfaces library
ii  libbonoboui2-0           2.8.0-2         The Bonobo UI library
ii  libc6                    2.3.2.ds1-20    GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libgail-common           1.8.2-1         GNOME Accessibility Implementation
ii  libgail17                1.8.2-1         GNOME Accessibility Implementation
ii  libgconf2-4              2.8.1-4         GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libgcrypt11              1.2.0-11        LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr
ii  libglade2-0              1:2.4.1-1       Library to load .glade files at ru
ii  libglib2.0-0             2.4.8-1         The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome2-0              2.8.0-6         The GNOME 2 library - runtime file
ii  libgnomecanvas2-0        2.8.0-1         A powerful object-oriented display
ii  libgnomeui-0             2.8.0-3         The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf
ii  libgnomevfs2-0           2.8.3-8         The GNOME virtual file-system libr
ii  libgnutls11              1.0.16-13       GNU TLS library - runtime library
ii  libgstreamer-plugins0.8- 0.8.7-2         Various GStreamer libraries and li
ii  libgstreamer0.8-0        0.8.8-1         Core GStreamer libraries, plugins,
ii  libgtk2.0-0              2.4.14-2        The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libgtop2-2               2.6.0-4         Libraries for gtop system monitori
ii  libice6                  4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  liborbit2                1:2.10.2-1.1    libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii  libpanel-applet2-0       2.8.2-1         Library for GNOME 2 Panel applets
ii  libpango1.0-0            1.6.0-3         Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpopt0                 1.7-5           lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii  libsm6                   4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 X Window System Session Management
ii  libx11-6                 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxklavier8             1.03-1          X Keyboard Extension high-level AP
ii  libxml2                  2.6.11-5        GNOME XML library
ii  xlibs                    4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 X Keyboard Extension (XKB) configu
ii  zlib1g                   1:1.2.2-4       compression library - runtime

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From: =?utf-8?q?Marc_Dequ=C3=A8nes?= (Duck) <Duck@DuckCorp.org>
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Subject: Re: gnome-applet: mixer-applet does recognise local devices only,
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Coin,

> The mixer applet does recognise local devices  only.
> When used in a applicationserver/ xterminal environment the mixer-applet
> cannot control the sound device, because the sound device is located on
> a remote (xterminal) system. This is a similar to the X Windows
> configuration, where a application does send its outout to a server.=20

> Splitting up  the mixer-applet in a server and client part will solve
> the problem.

> I do classify this as bug and not a wish, because the X Windows System
> is working in this server client way since the early beginning. Running
> xterminals with application servers has been a long standing tradition
> among unix systems.=20

> The mixer applet violates this basic understanding since it does not
> take into account the usage in xterminal environments which renders
> part of the gnome destop (sound ) unusable.

You are wrong, the X window system is meant to export graphical data to
any X server. Being able to draw window remotly is not a proof to be
able to play sounds remotly or even control devices remotly. The X
window system is not designed to export more than graphical stuff, and
you have to use another software if you like to extend this
exportability.

You can for example use NAS, Rplay, or Mas to play sounds over a
network.

AFAIK, there is no software allowing direct device control over the
network, like is necessary to setup your sound device.

As there is nothing GNOME can do to solve this *wish* until there is any
software library allowing this kind of feature, i then close this
report.

=2D-=20
Marc Dequ=C3=A8nes (Duck)

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