[Foo2zjs-maintainer] Bug#579154: foo2zjs: adds a strange icon "HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper"

[Fabian Greffrath]

tags 579154 - squeeze
thanks

Hi Luca et al,

Am 28.04.2010 13:02, schrieb Luca Capello:
> What is the reason for this tag?  This has nothing to do with squeeze
> (or I have missed an announcement), since it affects both testing and
> unstable.

Yes, sorry. I added this to indicate that this issue stroke me on a 
fresh suqeeze install. It should not mean that this does not apply to 
stable or unstable as well, though.

> Well, I do not see that as a strange icon: at least it represents
> exactly the product the software it is written for, which is not the
> case for other icons, e.g. Ekiga or VLC.  And I found it even better
> than the "Default Printer" icon in the GNOME Preferences in unstable ;-)

Yes, but these icons represent software that serve general purposes, 
whereas the icon in question is *only* usable for a special action 
this very printer model.

> Sorry and do not get it personal, but this is not a reason for a "minor"
> bug, instead I changed the severity to wishlist.

I am fine with this.

> Again, do not get it personal, but what does "negative desktop
> experience" mean?  The icon is there and it is even nicer than other
> *default* GNOME icons, it states one single action (replace the paper
> for the HPLJ 10xx printers).

The "negative desktop experience" means that my first impression when 
clicking through the menus was: WTF?! I think the icon's use case is 
much too special to justify it being visible in each and every 
standard install.

And with regard to the standard GNOME icon set, the situation has 
vastly improved with the 2.30 version of the gnome-icon-theme package, 
you should really try it out.

>> or 2) this icon gets disabled by default in GNOME (thus CCing
>> pkg-gnome team).
> I kept the cc: (and thank you for it!), but I would say, again, that
> there is no valid reason for that.

This has already been done, see:
<http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-gnome/?op=comp&compare[]=%2F@24017&compare[]=%2F@24018&manualorder=1>

> I would not say that this is an option at all: should we remove sane
> because only a minority of the users will use it?

No, I think foo2zjs itself is important enough to get installed, but I 
don't think the same about this specific icon.

> I would be happy to find a solution which fits all users, but I am not
> sure there would be one in this case...

To be honest, I have expressed my opinion and am confident with the 
measures that have been taken. I'd like to leave it up to you (plural) 
to elaborate the perfect[tm] solution. ;)

Cheers,
Fabian