lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

[Josselin Mouette]

Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 12:39 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : 
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Where can that list be found? It looks correct, but different from the
> > one in tasksel.
> 
> That is the Key packages from the gnome-desktop and desktop tasks in
> tasksel.

Oh, I see.

> > So one of the solutions would be to ditch Recommends.
> 
> I was wrong about recommends being included currently.

OK, so we’re left with the need for a smaller metapackage then.

> > Full GNOME is already not included, since that would be the “gnome”
> > package, not “gnome-desktop-environment”.
> 
> Well, that is included in the task as a non-key package, so is
> downloaded if possible. (And should be included on the DVD, assuming all
> of gnome fits on a DVD :)

That looks alright.

> > If you really want to make it fit on a CD, we could use the following
> > list instead of the one above:
> >         gnome-core
> >         dmz-cursor-theme
> >         epiphany-browser (or iceweasel, but epiphany should be smaller)
> >         gdm3
> >         desktop-base
> >         evince
> >         file-roller
> >         gnome-about
> >         gnome-keyring
> >         gnome-screensaver
> >         gnome-themes
> >         gnome-user-guide
> >         gtk2-engines
> >         gvfs-backends
> >         libgnome2-perl (unless someone finally fixes #542175)
> >         policykit-1-gnome
> >         gnome-disk-utility
> > And if possible:
> >         gstreamer0.10-alsa
> >         gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
> >         gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
> >         totem
> >         evolution
> > 
> > I can make a metapackage out of this list if it can help.
> 
> We should probably do that. That's enough of gnome not to be laughable? 

Yes. Actually gnome-core alone is launchable, but you won’t do much with
it. I’ve added the base theming and enough applications to actually do
something.

> (network-manager-gnome seems to not be included in that, but then it's
> recommended by the gnome-metapackage so would not be included from the 
> current gnome-desktop-enviromnent using task either, if installing w/o
> a network, I think..)

Yup, NM is only in the full task.

> Rough size numbers (probably 20 mb or more off in some direction):
> 
>                                            i386    amd64
> available space on CD #1 for gnome         372 mb  392 mb
> -----------------------------------------------------
> gnome-desktop-environment with recommends  543 mb  584 mb
> gnome-desktop-environment no recommends    366 mb  394 mb
> list 1+2 with recommends                   411 mb  436 mb
> list 1+2 no recommends                     257 mb  279 mb
> list 1 with recommends                     307 mb  332 mb
> list 1 no recommends                       214 mb  236 mb

This would need to be tested, but 1+2 without recommends sounds like the
good thing to add. We could remove the mail client (evolution) if it
turns out too big, nowadays the media player looks more important.

How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
gnome-core the key package.

I’m adding -release to the CC list to see if this suits them.

Cheers,
-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
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