Bug#473118: this isn't good enough...

Josselin Mouette joss at debian.org
Mon Jan 4 20:18:06 UTC 2010


Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 12:12 +0100, Lars Rune Nøstdal a écrit : 
> I got a message from a much nicer person than you (and sure; me too
> probably..) and it turned out I was wrong in that e.g. Ubuntu does not
> even _use_ your hostile, aggressive, crappy meta-package (ha-haaa).

You should explain how a package can be hostile and aggressive. This
looks like an interesting concept to me. Does it jump at your throat and
suck all your blood when you try to install it?

> Yes, it's in their repositories, but not installed. They instead
> provide and use their _own_ meta-package which renders one with a
> proper, complete and usable -- but _still_ flexible, desktop. So it
> seems most (all?) of the distros let people do what they want, then:
> 
>   * Fedora
>   * Gentoo
>   * Ubuntu
>   * Arch
>   * ..probably others?

Yeah, gNewSense.

> ..with of course Debians version of a Gnome based desktop being the
> exception in that it is an inflexible piece of turd. That, or you are
> "free" to pick anoooother version (meta-package) of what a Debian
> Gnome desktop entails that doesn't include anything useful. Oh, and I
> run KDE now, but yeah, perhaps I should also consider dropping Debian
> entirely for something a wee bit less hostile.

No one cares what you’re using. You’re just pissing people off with your
religious war.

> > If you think this kind of email will make things change, I wish you good
> > luck in your life. You’ll need much of it.
> 
> In my case I will not have to wish for anything as I _know_ people
> will continue to reflect your negative ways back at you in various
> forms; directly or indirectly (e.g., passive; by more or less silently
> leaving).

Developers are giving away their time to build free software. Some users
think that, because they use their software, they can ask them to do
anything and developers will use their free time to obey their orders,
regardless of how stupid they are.

Things don’t work like that. If you want something that developers don’t
want do do, you have to do it yourself. This is how free software has
always worked. Just because you use it doesn’t give you *any* right.

Some people can’t accept that fact, and they start insulting people
because of that. This looks like this:

> Good luck with your aggressive, destructive, violent and ugly behavior
> -- it's _your_ "little debate". Keep pushing it; as a typical male you
> have probably figured out by now that it is of course waaay too late
> to change anything now; that's your "freedom" applied back at you!

Please look back at every word of this paragraph, and think of your
behavior in this bug report. 

Nah, just kidding. I know that you won’t be able to reflect on yourself.

Actually, I was going to add gnote back as an alternative now that it is
maintained again, but you just made me change my mind. Pissing off
people like you is one of the little pleasures in life. It is so short,
you can’t miss any such opportunity.

kthxbye, 
-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling
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