Bug#573865: menus.blacklist faar to long

[Josselin Mouette]

Le samedi 23 avril 2011 à 01:41 +0200, Florian Uekermann a écrit : 
> I tried gnome 3 today and spend way too much time figuring out why so
> much applications I need do not show up.

I don’t know whether you’re talking of gnome-shell or gnome-panel, but
there are additional issues with the gnome-shell menus that are still to
be fixed.

> I really need the following applications every day regardless of the
> desktop environment I'm using:
> 
> kate - There is no replacement for kate I happen to know apart from some
> developement environments. Seriously, there are people who really need
> kate and some of them use gnome.
> 
> kopete - My favorite client. Whats wrong with it.
> 
> k3b
> 
> okular
> 
> gwenview

You can fire the menu editor (typically alacarte) and enable them.

> There are lots of other applications that are blocked for no good
> reason. But I don't really need most of them, so I don't care, other
> people might...
> 
> kwrite - It is a nice editor and by no means kde specific software. Not
> blocking it doesn't hurt anybody.
> 
> all kdegames - kde-standard doesn't depend on this. Someone installed
> them on purpose if they are present, thats kind of cruel ;).
> 
> konsole - You are not blocking xterm, why konsole? It's a nice application.

You can empty /etc/gnome/menus.blacklist if you want to disable that.
Have fun with your menu that goes beyond the screen height, however.

> This is not Ubuntu, I am not aware of some kind of "Only one app for a
> specific purpose"-policy in Debian.

There’s no “10 apps for the same purpose” policy either. So far the only
application duplication that we have on the default GNOME install is
iceweasel/epiphany, and it is forced upon us by the d-i maintainers.

> It might be a good idea to contact the maintainers of those files that
> should really be blocked and aks them to hide them in gnome (or
> everywhere) and gradually remove the entries of the whole list.

This has of course been requested before implementing something as idiot
as a blacklist - after all we already have OnlyShowIn / NotShowIn for
that purpose.

Now, I somehow agree that if you just run “apt-get install k3b”, you
should see it in the GNOME menus. However if you install kde-full (and
it is enough that two users of the same system want a different DE), you
will obtain an unusable menu (and I really mean unusable, I didn’t came
up with the blacklist idea because of 3 spurious applications). I don’t
have a magical recipe to handle correctly both cases, still.

If you have ideas to improve the situation without too much
complication, I’m open to them. But all in all, I’m more interested in
improving the GNOME user experience as a whole (and that means improving
e.g. brasero) than in getting it to work with k3b.

Cheers,
-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
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  `-    […] I will see what I can do for you.”  -- Jörg Schilling

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