Bug#563712: Cannot remove Gnome-games, Cheese, Empathy, Ekiga, Epiphany, Remmina, Rhythmbox without removing Gnome

Milan Niznansky niznansky at minosi.eu
Wed Mar 16 00:45:06 UTC 2011


On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 10:16 +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:26:33PM +0100, Milan Niznansky wrote:
> > Do you really believe that a user uninstalling gnome-games wants to
> > uninstall stuff like Liferea, Network-manager, update-manager, gdebi ..
> > etc. ?
> > Because that is what removing that "not-needed" as you made it sound
> > "gnome" metapackage tries to achieve.
> > 
> > Any other suggestion on how to remove gnome-games (or gnome-screensaver
> > or ...) WITHOUT destroying the desktop environment?
> 
> aptitude unmarkauto ~Rgnome
> aptitude remove gnome-games

Well that fancy "unmarkauto  ~R*", kind of, helped.

So, eventually, just to remove gnome-games one has to:
1) remove "gnome" (totally counter intuitive, Microsoft style behavior)
:/# aptitude unmarkauto ~Rgnome
:/# aptitude unmarkauto gdebi liferea network-manager-gnome gnome-office
shotwell
:/# aptitude remove gnome
2) remove gnome-games
:/# aptitude remove gnome-games


But, gnome-games aside, I would love to know why is the gnome
metapackage misused for installing completely independent stuff like
liferea?

Is it that someone was lazy or that it brings some benefits behind the
scenes?
If so, could you point me to a more proper forum to discuss this?

As far as I can tell, the current (fresh install) dependency scheme is
in need of more love&care.


Regards,
Milan Niznansky


[code] @fresh(again) squeeze

root at debian:/# aptitude aptitude unmarkauto ~Rgnome
#succeeds

root at debian:/# aptitude remove gnome-games
#aborted, tried to remove "gnome"

root at debian:/# aptitude remove gnome
The following packages will be REMOVED:  
  gdebi{u} gdebi-core{u} gnome gnome-office{u} libgexiv2-0{u} liferea{u}
mobile-broadband-provider-info{u} 
  network-manager-gnome{u} shotwell{u} 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 12.5 MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

root at debian:/# aptitude unmarkauto gdebi liferea network-manager-gnome
gnome-office shotwell
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.

root at debian:/# aptitude remove gnome
The following packages will be REMOVED:  
  gnome 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 57.3 kB will be freed.
(Reading database ... 116733 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing gnome ...
                                         
root at debian:/# 
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