<html><body><div class="x-apple-signature">Thanks for the response - I am aware of the dangers - my goal is to help catch bugs and contribute to debian.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="x-apple-signature"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="x-apple-signature">If you consider these bugs as spurious, is there a better way to upgrade gnome early and still report bugs that are useful?<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="x-apple-signature"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="x-apple-signature">Thanks, Abhijit.</div><div><br>On Feb 19, 2018, at 06:41 AM, Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> wrote:<br><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">Control: reassign -1 gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 3.27.90-1<br><br>On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 20:57:05 -0800, Abhijit Hoskeri wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">gnome-shell crashes on startup with the new version of</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 is installed. I worked around the problem by</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">holding the package to 3.26.x.</blockquote><br>I think this is better represented as a libgnome-desktop bug: the new<br>libgnome-desktop from experimental is not yet ready for full-stack<br>testing.<br><br>When I saw this crash, it was because the same process had both<br>libgnome-desktop-3-12 (via libmutter) and libgnome-desktop-3-17 (via<br>gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0) in the same process space, and they fight.<br><br>gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 (>= 3.27) should probably have a Breaks<br>on libmutter-1-0 (<< 3.27) to prevent the broken situation from<br>being installable. However, Mutter 3.27 has not yet been uploaded to<br>experimental, so if that was done, there is no version that would be<br>co-installable with libgnome-desktop-3-17 yet.<br><br><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">ii libc6 2.27-0experimental0</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">ii libpolkit-gobject-1-0 0.113-6</blockquote><br>You appear to be installing all available packages from experimental. This<br>is almost certainly a bad idea. If they were ready for general use,<br>they wouldn't be in experimental.<br><br> smcv<br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>