[Pkg-gridengine-devel] Going for 8.1.3

[Dave Love]

Laszlo Kajan <lkajan at rostlab.org> wrote:
>
>I can upload to 'experimental', and have the test builds. I - with help
>from Tim - can test the packages we build. But.
>
>I am not prepared and experienced enough to address the rest of the
>issues you bring up. Mark Hymers, who did the original packaging for
>Debian,
>does not seem active now. I am just a user of SGE, and not a
>sophisticated one to that. I hope others on the team can comment, or
>that we can
>recruit new team members from Debian, who can.

I'm afraid I'm confused who's available as a maintainer/packaging
expert.

>> I'm not at all sure the current conflicts and replaces tags are right,
>> and the setup with alternatives for DRMAA and names clashes with Torque,
>> for instance.
>
>This also is something beyond the depth of the issue I can commit to
>investigate.

Maybe it's a case of seeing of there's any problem. I suppose I can try
to contact maintainers of other systems.  (The torque one I recall from
crystallography long ago...)

>> There seem to be fundamental issues with a distributed system like this
>> in Debian, apart from policy making it rather difficult, for instance,
>> to run shared-everything clusters.  I can't see a way to make automatic
>> updates work sensibly.
>
>Probably this is why the Debian community is quite cold on gridengine.
>Without more expert (than my) contribution from Debian Developers/grid
>experts, I am starting to see that gridengine may not continue to be
>maintained within Debian.

Surely Debian should be able to cope with such closely coupled
distributed systems anyway.  This can't be a unique example, and if
policy doesn't support it, that should change.

>There's an expression in Hungarian: 'He ran his cleaver against a tree
>too big'. I feel this way a lot these days, attempting to (help)
>maintain
>gridengine.

Indeed.  I expected plenty of people to hack on it free of Sun/Oracle,
but that hasn't happened, and the commercial interests have clobbered
the community.  It looks as if the future is SLURM.