From carnil at debian.org  Sat Jan 24 07:23:55 2015
From: carnil at debian.org (Salvatore Bonaccorso)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:23:55 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
Message-ID: <20150124072355.GA23945@eldamar.local>

Source: gridengine
Version: 6.2u5-7.3
Severity: serious
Justification: possibly not fit for the release

Hi

I wonder if in the light of #693722[1] and given the last three
uploads for gridengine were NMU, if gridengine should possibly not be
shipped with jessie.

 [1] https://bugs.debian.org/693722

There is also an offer to take over the packaging to a more recent
version based on 8.1.x in [2]. So maybe the package could be keept in
unstable, but jessie not released without gridengine/6.2u5-7.3?

 [2] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gridengine-devel/2014-October/000738.html

Regards,
Salvatore
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From carnil at debian.org  Sat Jan 24 07:52:20 2015
From: carnil at debian.org (Salvatore Bonaccorso)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:52:20 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <20150124072355.GA23945@eldamar.local>
References: <20150124072355.GA23945@eldamar.local>
Message-ID: <20150124075220.GA26405@eldamar.local>

Hi

Just a quick note, a removal from jessie in any case will also affect
the logol package which has a Depends on libdrmaa-java:

----cut---------cut---------cut---------cut---------cut---------cut-----
$ dak rm -n -R -s testing gridengine
Will remove the following packages from testing:

gridengine |  6.2u5-7.3 | source
gridengine-client |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
gridengine-common |  6.2u5-7.3 | all
gridengine-drmaa-dev |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
gridengine-drmaa1.0 |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
gridengine-exec |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
gridengine-master |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
gridengine-qmon |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc
libdrmaa-java |  6.2u5-7.3 | amd64, i386, powerpc

Maintainer: Debian Grid Engine Maintainers <pkg-gridengine-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org>

------------------- Reason -------------------

----------------------------------------------

Checking reverse dependencies...
# Broken Depends:
logol: logol

# Broken Build-Depends:
logol: libdrmaa-java

Dependency problem found.
----cut---------cut---------cut---------cut---------cut---------cut-----

Regards,
Salvatore


From ondrej at sury.org  Thu Jan 29 12:23:46 2015
From: ondrej at sury.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?Sur=C3=BD?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:23:46 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
Message-ID: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi Salvatore,

given this thread:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gridengine-devel/2014-October/thread.html

and no response here:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703256

I would suggest that gridengine should be removed from Debian and
reintroduced when there's somebody who will activelly maintain it. Ccing
the folks who expressed interest in taking over and logol package that
would be affected by the removal.

If you agree I suggest to reassign this to ftp-master as RoQA.

Cheers,
-- 
Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org>
Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) ? a high-performance DNS server


From ondrej at sury.org  Thu Jan 29 12:43:22 2015
From: ondrej at sury.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?Sur=C3=BD?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:43:22 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi Roland,

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 13:39, Roland Fehrenbacher wrote:
> My offer to take over still stands. What needs to be done to keep it in
> jessie? Can we package "Son of Grid Engine" and still get it uploaded to
> jessie?

Nope, the only thing you can do is fix the RC bugs to keep the
gridengine in jessie.

So I guess it would be better to just remove it from jessie, do the work
on 8.x in unstable and use jessie-backports to provide the usable
current version to jessie users if there's a need for it.

Cheers,
-- 
Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org>
Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) ? a high-performance DNS server


From rf at q-leap.de  Thu Jan 29 12:39:27 2015
From: rf at q-leap.de (Roland Fehrenbacher)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:39:27 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

>>>>> "Ond?ej" == Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org> writes:

Hi Ond?ej, Salvatore, 

I haven't done anything yet since nobody answered to my requests on
alioth and I've been busy since.

    Ond?ej> Hi Salvatore, given this thread:

    Ond?ej> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gridengine-devel/2014-October/thread.html

    Ond?ej> and no response here:

    Ond?ej> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703256

    Ond?ej> I would suggest that gridengine should be removed from
    Ond?ej> Debian and reintroduced when there's somebody who will
    Ond?ej> activelly maintain it. Ccing the folks who expressed
    Ond?ej> interest in taking over and logol package that would be
    Ond?ej> affected by the removal.

My offer to take over still stands. What needs to be done to keep it in
jessie? Can we package "Son of Grid Engine" and still get it uploaded to
jessie?

Cheers,

Roland

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From rf at q-leap.de  Thu Jan 29 16:59:19 2015
From: rf at q-leap.de (Roland Fehrenbacher)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:59:19 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <21706.26343.426261.762147@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

>>>>> "Ond?ej" == Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org> writes:

    Ond?ej> Hi Roland, On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 13:39, Roland
    Ond?ej> Fehrenbacher wrote:
    >> My offer to take over still stands. What needs to be done to keep
    >> it in jessie? Can we package "Son of Grid Engine" and still get
    >> it uploaded to jessie?

    Ond?ej> Nope, the only thing you can do is fix the RC bugs to keep
    Ond?ej> the gridengine in jessie.

Ok, so it'll have to go ...

    Ond?ej> So I guess it would be better to just remove it from jessie,
    Ond?ej> do the work on 8.x in unstable and use jessie-backports to
    Ond?ej> provide the usable current version to jessie users if
    Ond?ej> there's a need for it.

Sounds like a reasonable plan.

Cheers,

Roland

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From d.love at liverpool.ac.uk  Thu Jan 29 17:56:47 2015
From: d.love at liverpool.ac.uk (Dave Love)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:56:47 +0000
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 ("=?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?Sur=C3=BD?="'s message of "Thu,
 29 Jan 2015 13:43:22 +0100")
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <87sietcvxc.fsf@pc102091.liv.ac.uk>

Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org> writes:

> Hi Roland,
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 13:39, Roland Fehrenbacher wrote:
>> My offer to take over still stands. What needs to be done to keep it in
>> jessie? Can we package "Son of Grid Engine" and still get it uploaded to
>> jessie?

A previous attempt was blocked because there was no complete list of
copyright holders (just like for linux, on which I based the package
wording if I recall correctly).  There is no such list, at least
publicly available, like for many packages.  I'm happy to maintain
packaging or appropriate changes if that doesn't block it in future.

> Nope, the only thing you can do is fix the RC bugs to keep the
> gridengine in jessie.
>
> So I guess it would be better to just remove it from jessie, do the work
> on 8.x in unstable and use jessie-backports to provide the usable
> current version to jessie users if there's a need for it.
>
> Cheers,

I don't know what the RC bugs are, but it should be removed for security
reasons if it can't be updated.  It doesn't ship enough to configure
against a user impersonating any other with a uid above a value which is
0 in the shipped configuration, i.e. it provides remote root on all exec
hosts, and probably the master.  (A previous "security" NMU was both
bogus and pointless in view of that.)

libdrmaa should be handled with alternatives.  (I don't know/remember
why there isn't a clash with torque and slurm already.)

To record it for anyone reading later:  SGE releases from
http://arc.liv.ac.uk/downloads/SGE/releases/ have debian-style packaging
installing into /opt, and the attempt at conformant packaging is under
http://arc.liv.ac.uk/repos/darcs/gridengine.debian/ via darcs, hg, or
git.  I thought the latter was also as a tarball, but that's currently
missing, which I'll fix.


From carnil at debian.org  Thu Jan 29 18:25:44 2015
From: carnil at debian.org (Salvatore Bonaccorso)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:25:44 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20150129182544.GA17393@eldamar.local>

Hi Ond?ej,

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 01:23:46PM +0100, Ond?ej Sur? wrote:
> given this thread:
> 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gridengine-devel/2014-October/thread.html
> 
> and no response here:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703256
> 
> I would suggest that gridengine should be removed from Debian and
> reintroduced when there's somebody who will activelly maintain it. Ccing
> the folks who expressed interest in taking over and logol package that
> would be affected by the removal.
> 
> If you agree I suggest to reassign this to ftp-master as RoQA.

So if I read all correctly, there is mostly an ack to have it removed.
Could you also fil at the same time the bug against release.d.o to
have it removed from jessie?

Regards,
Salvatore


From rf at q-leap.de  Thu Jan 29 18:49:56 2015
From: rf at q-leap.de (Roland Fehrenbacher)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:49:56 +0100
Subject: [Pkg-gridengine-devel] Bug#776131: gridengine: Should gridengine be
	removed from jessie?
In-Reply-To: <87sietcvxc.fsf@pc102091.liv.ac.uk>
References: <1422534226.697202.220453289.5B0F41D5@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <21706.10751.841570.171672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1422535402.704632.220461121.63F27744@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <87sietcvxc.fsf@pc102091.liv.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <21706.32980.221204.778166@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Love <d.love at liverpool.ac.uk> writes:

Hi Dave,

    Dave> Ond?ej Sur? <ondrej at sury.org> writes:
    >> Hi Roland,
    >>
    >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 13:39, Roland Fehrenbacher wrote:
    >>> My offer to take over still stands. What needs to be done to
    >>> keep it in jessie? Can we package "Son of Grid Engine" and still
    >>> get it uploaded to jessie?

    Dave> A previous attempt was blocked because there was no complete
    Dave> list of copyright holders (just like for linux, on which I
    Dave> based the package wording if I recall correctly).  There is no
    Dave> such list, at least publicly available, like for many
    Dave> packages.  I'm happy to maintain packaging or appropriate
    Dave> changes if that doesn't block it in future.

we should be able to sort this out.

    >> So I guess it would be better to just remove it from jessie, do
    >> the work on 8.x in unstable and use jessie-backports to provide
    >> the usable current version to jessie users if there's a need for
    >> it.

    Dave> and the attempt at conformant packaging is under
    Dave> http://arc.liv.ac.uk/repos/darcs/gridengine.debian/ via darcs,
    Dave> hg, or git.

I think that would be the point to start. I'd be happy to make this a joint
effort with you. Will not find time for it before April though. But
since we're not going to get it into jessie, there's no rush ...

Cheers,

Roland

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