[Pkg-ime-devel] Reminder: Freeze of Wheezy is approaching

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:21:59PM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 21:20, Osamu Aoki <osamu at debian.org> wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:10:19PM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> Package scim-python needs some love because it is RC buggy. Though the
> >> package is not that widely used today, I still wonder if there are
> >> people running it and would like to have it for Wheezy.
> >
> > My honest recommendation is to drop whole SCIM packages.
> >
> > After spending enough time for making SCIM for squeeze while struggling
> > with their old autotools codes, I was going to ask removal of them.
> > SCIM lacks gtk3 support now and scim-bridge which was the last hope for
> > gtk3 and qt4 support is about to be dropped.
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=642371
> >
> > Zombie upstream is something very difficult to work with.  They are
> > there but not as much help as the original authors.
> > ...

(Just to be sure: SCIM now has active upstream.  But new upstream
admitted he is not strong in technical background to keep up source with
new GTK or QT tools.) 

> I don't want SCIM either, since it is actually dead and ancient. But
> I'm in doubt that whether there are still someone need it for some
> features other IME (ibus, for example) doesn't have?

I do not think there is anything left which we need SCIM... With current
situation, security support is weak from upstream.

Rolf is the one who insisted to keep SCIM. (He pushed many patches
upstream but seems to have difficulties to package new upstream.
Anyway, I cced him with this email so he will know this issue.

As I remember for scim (1.4.9-3), in which I used autoreconf.  It caused
all sorts of headache.  autoreconf causes build failure if autotools
changes significantly unless upstream is active enough to keep up these
changes.

I also realized ibus is FTBFS now.  I will work on this FTBFS and maybe
on packaging ibus-fbterm.  This seems missing in ibus family. (SCIM does
not have equivalent)

FYI: (From Daiki)
FTBFS of ibus can be fixed by using fix documented in automake upstream
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/commit/?id=4e4dae50

Osamu