Bug#342341: eclipse: too many unneeded dependencies

Michael Koch konqueror at gmx.de
Wed Dec 14 07:55:49 UTC 2005


On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:36:29PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> Le Sat 10/12/2005, Michael Koch disait
> > I agree with you, Stephan. Tagging it 'wontfix' is the best thing. Or
> > just close it. We can either try to ship an Eclipse that works out of
> > the box or a an Eclipse that needs much help from the admin to install
> > additional stuff that Eclipse not depends on. I prefer to do the first
> > as it helps more users then the second option hurts. When we 'fix' this
> > bug and downgrade the Depends to Recommends or Suggests we will get bug
> > reports from users complaining that Eclipse doesnt work out of the box.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
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> 
> So you want to oblige people to use the pile of crap that gnome is. MY
> freedom is also to NOT use software I think is ill designed and is a danger.
> 
> You deny me this right. And you're a liar, I can download upstream eclipse
> without using mozilla (you oblige people to install obsolete sqoftware by the
> way..) nor gnome.

I would like that you check the facts before writing such words.

You are free not to use the Eclipse packaged by Debian but e.g. the Help
system which is a vital system for some users will not work. Other
thinks don't work either. Upstream Eclipse 3.1.1 don't works with free
java runtimes at all because of broken memory management in JDT.


Cheers,
Michael
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