Bug#432350: eclipse: Starting point

[Pantelis Koukousoulas]

> Wouldn't your package from Dec 2008 far better than the current "solution". I think so.
> So, please, upload at least that one to experimental.

I 'm sorry but this is just not possible. We cannot pollute debian
with crap. My package is (at least was) working
and is appropriate for what it was meant to be: a proof of concept and
a demonstration of where the problems
are.

To become uploadable, there are certain things that need to be done to
comply with debian policy. As long
as those things are not completed, the package would be rejected even
if I uploaded it ;)

> BTW: One thing I don't get is, why that package has that complecity. The only reason in mind is, that it won't work "out of box" with a free java compiler.
> If thats the problem, common, move it to non-free. Most users won't care. The ones that care can stick to the two years (!) old version.

My package works fine with openjdk so main vs non-free is not a
problem. Some of the problems are:

1) Getting eclipse to build from source in a debian setting from the
command-line and install it in a way
    that also allows eclipse's P2 system to work. (A large part of the
complexity is devoted to this).

2) Use debian-packaged versions for the jar dependencies that are also
eclipse (OSGi) compliant.
    (My package doesn't solve that).

and the various other problems you see in the launchpad bugtracker of
the eclipse-debian project.

You are welcome to solve these with less complexity. If you manage to
do this, the nice folks in the
linux-distros project in upstream eclipse.org will more than welcome
your contributions :)

Cheers,
Pantelis