Releases of jedmodes

Jörg Sommer joerg at alea.gnuu.de
Sun Jun 4 15:46:20 UTC 2006


Hallo G.,

G. Milde schrieb am Thu 01. Jun, 15:06 (+0200):
> On 31.05.06, Paul Boekholt wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 May 2006 16:32:10 +0200, "G. Milde" <g.milde at web.de> said:
> > 
> > > Paul, for often used modes that should be activated by default in a
> > > Debian system with jed-extra installed:
> > 
> > > * would you agree to add autoloads to the original source,

I would prefer this. From your point of view as jedmodes maintainer I
would force to use autoload(), because this way you could do a automatic
dependency checking and provide the user with the information of the
needed dependencies, for example.

And I think a missing autoload() is a sign of an unclean mode. Is there
one mode in the jed/lib that is based on the assumption the user loads a
different mode before? I don't know of one.

Another point is, it breakes any automatism and prevents tools like
fetch_mode_from_jedmodes().

> > > * would you prefer|insist on loading the autoloads via utils/ini.sl in 
> > >   jed.d/50jed-extra.sl
> > 
> > My first preference would be for utils/ini.sl to be loaded by default.

I remember one year ago both of you talked totally different: I've
proposed to load different files of configuration upon startup. That
were your opinions:

,----[ G. Milde ]---
| Uff.  One of the main advantages of jed is its fast startup. I hate KDE
| because I have to wait for every app as long as on windows. Jed starts
| with virtually no delay and I will do everything I can to keep it
| this way, trying to keep as low as possible the number of startup files.
`----

,----[ Paul Boekholt ]---
| This could become quite slow.  On my system, GNU Emacs starts much faster
| than Xemacs, because Xemacs has to load a .elc file for every extension
| package, and GNU Emacs does not (I'm not sure how GNU Emacs does it).
`----

Now we talk about this again. The names of the files changed and the
place where they are, but the core is the same. And one thing seems
different: you proposed it.

Schöne Grüße, Jörg.
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