Bug#358664: [Pkg-kde-extras] Bug#358664: Reopen Bug#358664

Jari Aalto jari.aalto at cante.net
Thu Feb 1 22:25:58 CET 2007


"Frank Schoolmeesters" <frank_schoolmeesters at yahoo.com> writes:

> On 2/1/07, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto at cante.net> wrote:
>> Mark Purcell <msp at debian.org> writes:
>>
>> > tags 358664 wontfix
>> > tags 358664 upstream
>> > forwarded 358664 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1460937&group_id=6488&atid=106488
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:41, Jari Aalto wrote:
>> >> Repoening - and do now tag with "wontfix" just to hide this problem.
>> >
>> > Done!
>> >
>> >> If KDE people are unresponsive, then Debian amaintainer could write
>> >> local patch to remove the intrusive screen.
>> >
>> > This is well beyond the remit of normal Debian package maintenance.
>> >
>> > Patches are always welcome, if you can assist...
>>
>> Good to here. Will you apply it once I get one ready?
>> Do you prefer dpatch managed one or do I just send diff?
>
> The splash screen is NOT intrusive, and can be disabled very easy in
> Konfigurator as already stated many times in
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358664

What konfigurator? I do not use KDE WM/desktop at all. Only the
"File manager" Krusader. Linux doe snot have many good file managers
that are comparable to that of Windows OS. Thank you for the program!

> Current KDE nor Krusader is intended to work on old hardware, as i
> already mentioned before.

The problem is not there. For some reason or other the startup takes
very long time.

* In fast machines it just flashes, right?
* In slow machine is stays there and occupies 20% of the
  effective screen space. And because the way it's been
  implemented, it staus "on top", making it impossible work in
  other windows underneat (actuall, it certers itself, making
  all programs unusable)

Please understand that there are many many people that do not have the
monetary assets to upgrade every year. The world is not the developed
countries.

> I don't understand why you are so aggressive against the solution
> provided as already mentioned before.
>
> AFAIK there is only _one_ of many many many users who has a problem
> with this issue.

I do hope that this won't go into that direction. Any problem, should
be listened and checked if it can be solevd in a satisfactory way. If
I understand correct, it has been suggested

* Use Konfigurator

  => Cannot do that. No KDE Desktp is installed.

* Other have not ported this before

  => That does not make bug non-existing. There are various reasond why this
  has not een reported: people don't know reportbug, they use better hardware,
  better displays (X > 1024), or they just don't bother sending reports.

I'm wondering:

* what functionality is lost if the splash screen is not diplayed?
* what are the real benefits of splash screen in the first place other
  than a marketting slogan and making name known? Do we really need that
  kind of announcements?

I'm willing to invest the time to examine this if I get a confimation
that patch will be accepted (likeMark Purcell suggested), in case
developers are busy in taks elsewhere.

Jari





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