Hi Richard,

On  So 28 Mai 2017 17:59:17 CEST, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 05/28/2017 10:12 AM, Philipp Pilhofer wrote:
>> Am 28.05.2017 um 16:59 schrieb Vlad Orlov:
>>> Reassigning the bug to metapackage since fixing it requires upgrading
>>> of both mate-desktop (to 1.16.2) and Caja (to 1.16.3). Also merged all
>>> the duplicate reports since they're all about the same regression.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, an upgrade would be most appreciated (also see #861031), as it  
>> is really awful to ship a DE
>> with obvious bugs like this one ...
>>
>
> Can an "end user" help?

Not really.

> Began _using_ computers as an E.E. student in early 60's.
> Did a little assembler on 8085's in 70's.
> Was always in hardware, but many jobs had me as engineering support  
> for QA/QC.
> I'm using Stretch with MATE (hence my interest).
> I can dedicate a machine with disk space for 5 or 6 copies of  
> stretch with room for any requested logs. {i.e. would willing able  
> to rerun a specific test in an identical environment}
> Being retired - I have time.

You can always test applications, discover bugs and provide fool-proof  
methods of reproducing the issues on freshly-installed machines with  
blank user accounts.

If you descriptions are good, this will help a lot for actually  
reproducing bugs reliably.

If you want to dive in deeper (C programming skills required), you can  
try to fix issues.

We could also need help with triaging Debian MATE bugs. That is, check  
if all the open bugs really exist on Debian 9's MATE, Debian 8's MATE,  
etc. If bugs are not reproducible on any of the stable Debian  
versions, the bugs should be closed.

In Debian, you have access to many of the tools (e.g. BTS, Git  
repositories for the packaging). The only limitation is: you cannot  
upload to the Debian package archives. For this, you need to be a  
Debian Maintainer or Debian Developer with upload privileges.

Saying that, the Debian MATE team could really need 1-2-3 more active  
Debian Ms/Ds. Currently, I am the only DD doing uploads for MATE. And  
I have so many other projects to look after, too. Many of them with a  
higher prio.

light+love,
Mike
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