Bug#682912: iceweasel: inaccessibility with gnome-orca

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL]

Hi,

Sorry too for the bug I submitted without seeing yours. Thanks for
merge.

About status, I don't agree. Debian is known for 2 caracteristics:
releases arrive every 2-3 years, which is long and makes some packages
out-to-date as soon as a stable release is done, but it warranties a
full stability and work. From this point of view, any user, also blind
and even not power-user, every beginner who want to test Linux, wants to
manage to use all the tools of Debian which are known to be accessible.
Pirefox is one of these tools, mentioned on orca's page and very
important when using of a computer. Here, it's not a simple "works with
problems", it's "if I install then run apps, it's inaccessible". So it
prevents from using iceweasel by a blind people, especially if it's a
beginner who want to test Linux for accessibility. Imagine if you are a
beginner, a simple user who only wants to shut up the computer and see
it to work, and 1st shing, "Iceweasel inaccessible". It's disappointing.

That's why in my conditions, Debian credibility is in the balance, so
it's an important bug. The workaround is not easy to find and apply for
everybody (one's has to understand export command, then how to make it
run at every starting of the computer, etc.) and it's not simple.

Iy my opinion, when someone installs Debian stable, EVERYTHING should
work. At least, be usable unattended. Bugs during usage are normal, but
bugs which prevent from running without attends are serious I think.

Alternatively, consider that Debian is for advanced users, it's not what
I believed to see in this distro.

That's why I suggest to let the bug status as important. All the more as
with gnome3, there will be a lot of a11y issues, so it wouldn't be
dramatic to be sure the bugs  can fix the disqro itself without upstream
are fixed. Otherwise using Linux for a blind people beginner will become
hard.

Regards,




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Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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Le vendredi 27 juillet 2012 à 12:07 +1000, Jason White a écrit :
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <texou at accelibreinfo.eu> wrote:
> > Package: iceweasel
> > Version: 10.0.6esr-1
> > Severity: important
> 
> Please don't classify bugs as important unless they truly meet Debian's
> definition.
> 
> This bug can be worked around with an environment variable setting. It really
> doesn't make the package unusable.
> 
> Unfortunately I submitted my own report before I discovered yours. I've merged
> the two bugs.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jason.
>