packaging jack - details on "plan B"

Eric Dantan Rzewnicki eric at zhevny.com
Fri Apr 23 11:35:28 UTC 2010


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55:20AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Hi Reinhard and others,
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 02:16:36PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:26:41PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>>> With you're proposal, I think switching from one alternative  
>>> implementation to another one won't work. For example switching from 
>>> tschack to jackd3 would break with undeclared file conflicts AFAIUI. 
>>> And my understanding of this whole hickhack was to allow users to 
>>> switch jack implementations without having to recompile packages.
>> If I understand your concern correctly, it is easily handled using  
>> "Replaces:".
>> I deliberately did not go into such details, as I can easily imagine  
>> lots of details being forgotten, but cannot imagine it eventually done 
>> right.
>>
>> In other words: Do you only fear that I forgot some details, or do you 
>> fear that it is impossible to implement at all like I drafted, even 
>> with carefully composed package relations?
> Ping!

>>> (If it works) my idea would allow this; and without having each and  
>>> every implementation to declare conflicts against every existing  
>>> other implementation.
>> Sorry, I lost track: Could you please, in a differently named  
>> subthread, repeat your proposal?
> Ping!
>
> If I get no response on this by sunday, and noone else objects, I will  
> go ahead with my proposed plan.
>
> Please do respond - I realy do want input on this, and may very well  
> have missed something obvious to oters that make the plan not work out  
> at all.
>
> Also, please do speak up if anyone feels they made earlier proposals  
> still valid to compare against.  I sincerely apologize if missing out on  
> them - I lost track of it in these discussions, and did not find/take  
> the time to go through the whole thread to isolate them.

I've tried to follow this as closely as I can, but I am new to packaging
so not qualified to discuss the specifics.

However, from what I do understand I do not see a consensus, yet. Also,
I would ask that we restate and clarify the proposed scheme and give
upstream a chance to comment.

NB: though torben is truly awesome, he is not the only upstream
developer.

-edrz



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