ignoring autotool in debian/copyright?

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Thu Dec 1 19:54:11 UTC 2011


On 11-12-01 at 04:25pm, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 16:12, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> > On 11-12-01 at 03:56pm, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 15:25, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> >> >> > I sure prefer if you are not lazy but instead respectful to those
> >> >> > developers that put effort into inventing and maintaining a tool
> >> >> > that is clearly good enough that you use it.
> >> >>
> >> >> hmm, i don't think this is about not respecting the developers of
> >> >> those great tools. even if i was "lazy and [...] treat it all as
> >> >> [...] GPL-2+" there would be a copyright clause that acknowledges
> >> >> the work.
> >> >
> >> > Respecting copyright is one thing. Respecting licensing is another.
> >>
> >> Why do you suggest that respecting licensing involves putting stuff
> >> into the copyright file? There are a few licenses that require
> >> that[1], but those involve only stuff that gets shipped in binary
> >> packages (because the source is already documented by itself.
> >> Otherwise, it would be undistributable).
> >>
> >> [1] More correctly, debian's approach to complying is putting the
> >> stuff in the copyright file.
> >
> > Uhm, perhaps we are talking past each other here: In above I do not see
> > the opposite of "respect" being "violation of license" but simply being
> > "disrespectful".
> >
> > Does it make sense now?
> 
> Mmm, a little bit. But then I fail to see how documenting the licenses
> in the copyright file is showing respect to anyone. As I see it, the
> copyright file is a technical document one must fill to comply with
> licenses and document them in every binary package (because the source
> is not available). Respect (and appreciation) is better shown by (as a
> user) a kudos message to the developers, and (as debian maintainer)
> maintaining a good relation and communication. I believe.

kudos and good relations are ways to pay respect too.  But none of those 
pay respect specifically to the work upstream have put into carefully 
deciding on a specific licensing for the work.


 - Jonas

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